Originally posted by srankmissingnin
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It was referenced in that vary same Punisher issue scanned above, several times Daredevil, Elektra's solo title, Dark Reign and most recently Secret Warriors. Agent Garret is even a member of the Howling Commandos now. Do some research?
Saying it was referenced doesn't make it referenced. The con game doesn't work on me. There is a large number of fans who say it isn't canon. It clearly isn't part of mainstream comics.
Originally posted by h1a8
Saying it was referenced doesn't make it referenced. The con game doesn't work on me. There is a large number of fans who say it isn't canon. It clearly isn't part of mainstream comics.
The events of Assassin have been referenced many times in canon books. It's not a matter of debate. Hell, the Daredevil devil story arc "Fall From Grace" is a even a direct continuation of Agent John Garrets story from where it left off in Eleketra: Assassin.
Educate yourself before you vocalize your "opinions."
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Elektra can punch clean through peoples chest and out their backs, straight through a ribcage and pull out a still beating heart. She has thrown her sai with enough force to rip off a mans hand at the wrist and propel that severed hand through his own chest and two layers of kevlar... show me a strength feat from Slade a tenth as impressive as that.She can also make her skill bullet proof. She's taken several direct punches to the face from Colossus Super Skrull before she went down (after taking several Cyclops Super Skrull optic blasts... also to the face), blows from a class 10 Silver Samurai in stride, Luke Cage and even Gorgon... no way in hell Slade is one shotting her.
Question:
Do you think punching through a body is a more impressive feat than standard peak punching feats like punching through more solid objects(walls,stone,brick, etc). Also, do punching feats count as strength feats for everyone except Slade?
I think it shows how ruthless Elektra is, but I'm pretty sure street levelers like Batman, DD, etc could do so, but would never try.
If you can kick down what looks like a reinforced steel door with ease, altering it's shape with force, you could probably force a limb through a body:
http://s915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/?action=view¤t=LargeNewTeenTitansv102-03.jpg
lifting two guys, one hand? Making two men fly with the force of throwing knives and Upheaving several casually:
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/DeathStrokeT-37-13.jpg
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/DeathStrokeT-37-14.jpg
Tossing a gorilla
http://s915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/?action=view¤t=02402.jpg
http://s915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/?action=view¤t=02403.jpg
Is that where her Durability is at regularly? Or just her highest durability feats?
Slade has more impressive, but he does have armor, and a HF. If you need to see some, I'll show you.
Also, I doubt Elektra is normally potrayed as bulletproof. If she was, how would this alleged instance occur?
Originally posted by Konton
I remember a bullet grazed her temple once, but she passed out IIRC.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The events of Assassin [b]have been referenced many times in canon books. It's not a matter of debate. Hell, the Daredevil devil story arc "Fall From Grace" is a even a direct continuation of Agent John Garrets story from where it left off in Eleketra: Assassin.Educate yourself before you vocalize your "opinions." [/B]
Again
Saying it was referenced doesn't make it referenced. The con game doesn't work on me. There is a large number of fans who say it isn't canon. It clearly isn't part of mainstream comics.
How can it be referenced when it is not in continuity? Obviously what was being reference, if anything, was something from the mainstream comics.
I don't know about you but something from Epic comics (not Marvel) being canon is asinine.
Originally posted by Accel*sigh* I simply assumed that the term "superhuman" would automatically mean beyond or superior to human, and argued in relation to the "sense feats" according to that notion, which is idiotic, I know.
I forgot what a hard-on namorsubby got every time the word "superhuman" was thrown around.
Batman etc(characters with no superhuman senses)
use senses to detect something, and then DS uses stated super-senses to detect them. Seeing as superhuman surpasses human, I assumed his senses were more accute. In other words, I assumed the guy with stated 1000x increased senses > peak humans wthout them in the sensory department.
Originally posted by namorsubby
Question:Do you think punching through a body is a more impressive feat than standard peak punching feats like punching through more solid objects(walls,stone,brick, etc). Also, do punching feats count as strength feats for everyone except Slade?
I think it shows how ruthless Elektra is, but I'm pretty sure street levelers like Batman, DD, etc could do so, but would never try.
If you can kick down what looks like a reinforced steel door with ease, altering it's shape with force, you could probably force a limb through a body:
http://s915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/?action=view¤t=LargeNewTeenTitansv102-03.jpglifting two guys, one hand? Making two men fly with the force of throwing knives and Upheaving several casually:
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/DeathStrokeT-37-13.jpg
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/DeathStrokeT-37-14.jpgTossing a gorilla
http://s915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/?action=view¤t=02402.jpg
http://s915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/?action=view¤t=02403.jpgIs that where her Durability is at regularly? Or just her highest durability feats?
Slade has more impressive, but he does have armor, and a HF. If you need to see some, I'll show you.
Also, I doubt Elektra is normally potrayed as bulletproof. If she was, how would this alleged instance occur?
Alright, I can get behind scan posting. lol
A few points to make.
I'm not sure Slade sent those men flying by hitting them with knives. They were on a balcony a floor above and, to me, it looks like they fell over the railing.
She's clearly not bullet proof under normal circumstances. She was shot and wounded (drugged of course) in Dark Reign and I think I recall her taking a bullet to the shoulder in Elektra v1. However, she's shown that she can amp her durability to some extent, and has demonstrated the ability to pull energy from nature to heal her wounds and stop blood loss with a thought.
http://s662.photobucket.com/albums/uu345/jinzin2008/?action=view¤t=Elektrabloodstopage.jpg
Now for some strength feats. She tosses two men effortlessly.
Slams a blunt pole threw Paladin- a low level superhuman
Kicks down a massive door.
http://s662.photobucket.com/albums/uu345/jinzin2008/?action=view¤t=doorkick.jpg
http://s662.photobucket.com/albums/uu345/jinzin2008/?action=view¤t=doorkick2.jpg
Crushes a mans skull with her GRIP STRENGTH.
http://s662.photobucket.com/albums/uu345/jinzin2008/?action=view¤t=facecrusher.jpg
http://s662.photobucket.com/albums/uu345/jinzin2008/?action=view¤t=facecrusher2.jpg
Has enough explosive leg strength to move faster than the human eye can see under water.
http://s662.photobucket.com/albums/uu345/jinzin2008/?action=view¤t=underwater1.jpg
http://s662.photobucket.com/albums/uu345/jinzin2008/?action=view¤t=underwater2.jpg
And here is the Luke Cage thing.
http://s662.photobucket.com/albums/uu345/jinzin2008/?action=view¤t=lukecage-1.jpg
Originally posted by h1a8
Again
Saying it was referenced doesn't make it referenced. The con game doesn't work on me. There is a large number of fans who say it isn't canon. It clearly isn't part of mainstream comics.How can it be referenced when it is not in continuity? Obviously what was being reference, if anything, was something from the mainstream comics.
I don't know about you but something from Epic comics (not Marvel) being canon is asinine.
Epic is a Marvel comic imprint, like MAX and Marvel Knights, some of it is canon, some of it isn't. Elektra Assassin, Lives Again and Wolverine and Havok: Meltdown are all canon. The events have all been referenced in other books. Like I said, not only have the events been referenced but the story arc "Fall From Grace" is a direct continuation of the events of Assassin, its not even a mater of debate.
Any of the "large number of fans" who say it isn't canon are - like you - uninformed.
Originally posted by srankmissingninI already stated it was an imprint. There is nothing referenced solely from them. This is fact! Anything you bring up that you think is referenced I can assure you it can be found in the mainstream comics preceding the event. Lives Again is a graphic Novel which is certainly not canon.
Epic is a Marvel comic imprint, like MAX and Marvel Knights, some of it is canon, some of it isn't. Elektra Assassin, Lives Again and Wolverine and Havok: Meltdown are all canon. The events have all been referenced in other books. Like I said, not only have the events been referenced but the story arc "Fall From Grace" is a direct continuation of the events of Assassin, its not even a mater of debate.Any of the "large number of fans" who say it isn't canon are - like you - uninformed.
Originally posted by h1a8
I already stated it was an imprint. There is nothing referenced solely from them. This is fact! Anything you bring up that you think is referenced I can assure you it can be found in the mainstream comics preceding the event. Lives Again is a graphic Novel which is certainly not canon.
Okay moron, I've said this three times already, so put down the bowl of lead paint you are eating and open your eyes.
THE DARE DEVIL STORY ARC "FALL FROM GRACE" IS A DIRECT CONTINUATION OF THE EVENTS IN ELEKTRA: ASSASSIN."
John Garret appeared in Daredevil v1 319 for a story that directly contiuned from the events in Elektra: Assassin. Before the events of "Fall from Grace," John Garret had only ever appeared in Elektra: Assassin. The entire point of the Daredevil story was that during the events of Elektra: Assassin, Elektra had left a fragement of her mind in Garret when she mind melded with him. Snake Root was going to take that fragement of Elektra and place it in a new warrior. It's canon.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Okay moron, I've said this three times already, so put down the bowl of lead paint you are eating and open your eyes.[b]THE DARE DEVIL STORY ARC "FALL FROM GRACE" IS A DIRECT CONTINUATION OF THE EVENTS IN ELEKTRA: ASSASSIN."
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Explain in detail how its a direct continuation eg quotes etc.
Originally posted by Deadline
Explain in detail how its a direct continuation eg quotes etc.
John Garret appeared in Daredevil v1 319 for a story that directly continued from the events in Elektra: Assassin. Before the events of "Fall from Grace," John Garret had only ever appeared in Elektra: Assassin. The entire point of the Daredevil story was that during the events of Elektra: Assassin, Elektra had left a fragment of her mind in Garret when she mind melded with him. Snake Root was going to take that fragment of Elektra and place it in a new warrior. It's canon.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
John Garret appeared in Daredevil v1 319 for a story that directly continued from the events in Elektra: Assassin. Before the events of "Fall from Grace," John Garret had only ever appeared in Elektra: Assassin. The entire point of the Daredevil story was that during the events of Elektra: Assassin, Elektra had left a fragment of her mind in Garret when she mind melded with him. Snake Root was going to take that fragment of Elektra and place it in a new warrior. It's canon.
Its ok I believe you its just if you don't go into detial hia8 may not get it. Ok but do you specifically have an example of somebody talking about something that happened in Elektra assassin to clinch it?
