Elektra Vs. Deathstroke(H2H)

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Let's just assume everybody is superhuman. Because there is no place to draw the lines.

I simply assume that either something a "human" character does is "humanly possible" is comics, or invalid due to being "humanly impossible" is comics.

What's "humanly possible" can be deciphered by what humans generally are capable of in comics. What's not humanly possible can be determined by what's stated to be "superhuman" or what is generally considered "superhuman" in comics. Either that or something being directly stated as "human" or "superhuman".

Now I think that's fair. How about you, Snoop?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yes, because one instance of Slade boasting that no human could do it = general consensus that it is humanly impossible? 🙄

Off the top of my head Contest of Champions v2 issue 4.

No, because when narration literally states in a feat that said feat is achieved by "superhuman" means, then it is humanly impossibly.

BTW, I could of "rolled my emoticon eyes", but I'm not a smart aleck like you.lol

Contest of Champions v2 issue 4 in which what exactly occurs, Srank? That is the question.

Originally posted by namorsubby
No, because when narration literally states in a feat that said feat is achieved by "superhuman" means, then it is humanly impossibly.

BTW, I could of "rolled my emoticon eyes", but I'm not a smart aleck like you.lol

Contest of Champions v2 issue 4 in which what exactly occurs, Srank? That is the question.

And the fact that humans have accomplished it would beg to differ. If everything Slade has done, Batman has done as well, then that means that Slade is barely above Batman if he is at all... it doesn't mean we ignore everything Batman has ever done so that Deathstroke can have the advantage you'd like to attribute to him.

What happens in Contest of Champions v2 issue 4? The... the citation you asked for?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And the fact that humans have accomplished it would beg to differ. If everything Slade has done, Batman has done as well, then that means that Slade is [b]barely above Batman if he is at all... it doesn't mean we ignore everything Batman has ever done so that Deathstroke can have the advantage you'd like to attribute to him.

What happens in Contest of Champions v2 issue 4? The... the citation you asked for? [/B]

*sigh* Humans have accomplished what Srank?, speak up.

*sigh*, Except for that is not the case, Srank. Not at all.

Slade has proven on panel to be superior to Batman up to the point that he barely has to focus on Bruce to beat him down(2nd encounter). He proved himself superior in both their encounters. So, what exactly are you trying to get at?

Can you just cut the "you know what", and tell me what happened in the issue? Please, Srank? For me?

Originally posted by namorsubby
*sigh* Humans have accomplished what Srank?, speak up.

*sigh*, Except for that is not the case, Srank. Not at all.

Slade has proven on panel to be superior to Batman up to the point that he barely has to focus on Bruce to beat him down(2nd encounter). He proved himself superior in both their encounters. So, what exactly are you trying to get at?

Can you just cut the "you know what", and tell me what happened in the issue? Please, Srank? For me?

I was responding to Deadline and your discussion about sensing vibrations. You where saying its not humanly possible, Deadline was saying that Batman has done it... and then I said that Cap and Black Panther have done it and it was a standard street level affair. Shang-Chi and Danny have done it as well. 😎

You mean the fight that ended up with Batman fine as can be standing over a battered and bruised, restrained Deathstroke with his own gun? Yeah Deathstroke won that!!! And Chuck Norris proved to be vastly superior to Bruce Lee in Way of the Dragon... if you only watch to first two minutes of that seven minute fight and ignore the ending. Seriously, Batman won that fight and be barely lost the first one.

Is this what someone "superior" looks like after a fight? Batman took Slade smashing his face off an I-Beam and he doesn't look a tenth as beat up as Deathstroke.

Captain America sensing subtle vibrations in air patterns is what happens in CoCv2 04.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I was responding to Deadline and your discussion about sensing vibrations. You where saying its not humanly possible, Deadline was saying that Batman has done it... and then I said that Cap and Black Panther have done it and it was a standard street level affair. Shang-Chi and Danny have done it as well. 😎

You mean the fight that ended up with Batman fine as can be standing over a battered and bruised, restrained Deathstroke with his own gun? Yeah Deathstroke won that!!! And Chuck Norris proved to be vastly superior to Bruce Lee in Way of the Dragon... if you only watch to first two minutes of that seven minute fight and ignore the ending. Seriously, Batman won that fight and be barely lost the first one.

Is this what someone "superior" looks like after a fight? Batman took Slade smashing his face off an I-Beam and he doesn't look a tenth as beat up as Deathstroke.

Captain America sensing subtle vibrations in air patterns is what happens in CoCv2 04.

Have done what , sense something by superhuman means, as stated in the scan with Slade? lol, no they haven't.

I never said Slade won the 2nd encounter. You might wanna save your sarcasm for when you're right, boy.lol

Slade was grinning at the end of the fight. It's clear Batman didn't do much. All he did was take advantage of Slade's disinterest. He sneak attacked him every time, and Slade easily put him down after shrugging off a barrage of suckers, twice. As for the first fight, Batman contended momentarily, and then got freakin' mollywapped. You really do always purposely exaggerate and overlook parts of these instances with Slade, don't you? For shame.

Also, I'm gonna mention just for the hell of it that that 2nd encounter occured after Slade was returned to his youth with amnesia. Who's to say that all Slade had vs Bruce in that encounter wasn't just pure physical advantages? Did he remember his training? His skill? His tactics? I really didn't even need to mention this, I know......just frosting on the cake. 😎

Okay, but Cap didn't use stated "super-senses", like all the others you mentioned, did he? I'll answer for you: NO.

edit:

Do you honestly think you needed to show me those scans? Really? lol, you could've just took them from my thread.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Have done what ,[b] sense something by superhuman means, as stated in the scan with Slade? lol, no they haven't.

I never said Slade won the 2nd encounter. You might wanna save your sarcasm for when you're right, boy.lol

Slade was grinning at the end of the fight. It's clear Batman didn't do much. All he did was take advantage of Slade's disinterest. He sneak attacked him every time, and Slade easily put him down after shrugging off a barrage of suckers, twice. As for the first fight, Batman contended momentarily, and then got freakin' mollywapped. You really do always purposely exaggerate and overlook parts of these instances with Slade, don't you? For shame.

Also, I'm gonna mention just for the hell of it that that 2nd encounter occured after Slade was returned to his youth with amnesia. Who's to say that all Slade had vs Bruce in that encounter wasn't just pure physical advantages? Did he remember his training? His skill? His tactics? I really didn't even need to mention this, I know......just frosting on the cake. 😎

Okay, but Cap didn't use stated "super-senses", like all the others you mentioned, did he? I'll answer for you: NO.

edit:

Do you honestly think you needed to show me those scans? Really? lol, you could've just took them from my thread. [/B]

And yet even with their meager human means they have far superior feats! Sensing subtle vibrations in air patterns >>>>>>> sensing vibrations in the ground. Captain America feels the vibrations and changes in air patterns when someone jumps at him from behind, Batman feels the changes in air pressure and vibrations when someone fires a bullet at him... and Slade is able to feel the vibrations in the ground... when fighting a Geokinesis. Awesome?lol They aren't even comparable, Caps and Batman's feats are so much better that it is laughable.

And FYI Slade said he needed to use his "increased brain power" to detect the vibrations, not super human senses as you've been saying... or are you of the opinion that "increased" is a synonymous with superhuman? Because if that is the case then surely enhanced means superhuman... and Captain America has been listed as being enhanced faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar more then he is cited as being peak human. Elektra has been stated as being "mystically enhanced" as well. But that can't be true... you think Captain America isn't stronger or faster than Batman.

Batman didn't do much? lol Slade looked like Mal after he fought the Operative, for christ's sake. His one good eye was 90% swollen over and he was tied up. Batman would have walked all over him if the fight continued. Slade "put him down" once, and considering the nature of that attack it was impressive that Batman got up at all. Slade used a Kali-esq style take down. Pushing down on the neck while pulling the arm up like that? A normal human being could kill or paralyze someone like that easily. Batman was only down for a few seconds even though Slade has "the strength of 20 men," (lol) and the take down was coupled with a face smash into the ground. The second time Slade simply knocked him over and retreated to try and take his shot, but Batman was right behind him... and then Bruce put the boots to him.

It was like a year after the end of his own series. "Young Slade" at that point was likely better than he ever was. It's the same version who got pretty much his only legitimate win over the Teen Titans in a fight (even though it was the crappy v2 Titans), not exactly the same Young Slade that got his ass kicked by the Jokers henchmen.

Your respect thread is missing the page that shows Deathstroke tied up with his one eye almost completely swollen over. I guess it is easier to pretend Slade looked better than Batman in that fight if you forget about that page?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And yet even with their meager human means they have far superior feats! Sensing subtle vibrations in air patterns >>>>>>> sensing vibrations in the ground. Captain America feels the vibrations and changes in air patterns when someone jumps at him from behind, Batman feels the changes in air pressure and vibrations when someone fires a bullet at him... and Slade is able to feel the vibrations in the ground... when fighting a Geokinesis. Awesome?lol They aren't even comparable, Caps and Batman's feats are so much better that it is laughable.

And FYI Slade said he needed to use his "increased brain power" to detect the vibrations, not super human senses as you've been saying... or are you of the opinion that "increased" is a synonymous with superhuman? Because if that is the case then surely enhanced means superhuman... and Captain America has been listed as being enhanced faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar more then he is cited as being peak human. Elektra has been stated as being "mystically enhanced" as well. But that can't be true... you think Captain America isn't stronger or faster than Batman.

Batman didn't do much? lol Slade looked like Mal after he fought the Operative, for christ's sake. His one good eye was 90% swollen over and he was tied up. Batman would have walked all over him if the fight continued. Slade "put him down" once, and considering the nature of that attack it was impressive that Batman got up at all. Slade used a Kali-esq style take down. Pushing down on the neck while pulling the arm up like that? A normal human being could kill or paralyze someone like that [b]easily. Batman was only down for a few seconds even though Slade has "the strength of 20 men," (lol) and the take down was coupled with a face smash into the ground. The second time Slade simply knocked him over and retreated to try and take his shot, but Batman was right behind him... and then Bruce put the boots to him.

It was like a year after the end of his own series. "Young Slade" at that point was likely better than he ever was. It's the same version who got pretty much his only legitimate win over the Teen Titans in a fight (even though it was the crappy v2 Titans), not exactly the same Young Slade that got his ass kicked by the Jokers henchmen.

Your respect thread is missing the page that shows Deathstroke tied up with his one eye almost completely swollen over. I guess it is easier to pretend Slade looked better than Batman in that fight if you forget about that page? [/B]

1. Captain America "sensing subtle shifts in the air" literally translates in him feeling the air move as BP moved. lol, but it sounds so much more impressive that way.

Batman heard the sound of a sniper bullet being fired. Please know what you're talking about.

Slade's feat literally states he utilizes a superhuman ability to detect the subtle shifts in the ground before these geokinetic characters actually attack. The fact that he needs superhuman senses to detect it should tell you just how subtle it is. Slade needed a more heightened sense(superhuman>human) to achieve his feat, and therefore it is more impressive. Pretty simple

My lord, Srank.lol, You obviously have no idea at all that Slade's "increased brainpower" is directly responsible for his 1000x increased superhuman senses. So just so you understand for next time, "increased brainpower" directly translates to "superhuman senses" when refering to Slade. Kay, pumpkin. 😆

Again, anyone with common sense knows Bruce won the second fight due to Slade's casual indifference and underestimation(CIS). Slade was most certainly shown the superior of the two in battle as well, being that he was sneak attacked each of the three times,and shrugged the blows, and put him down easily 2 of those 3 times. The 2nd time Slade literally put Bruce down with a freakin' backhand. You, of course, continue to ignore these facts, but then again, we all knew you would.

LOL, likely better than ever? based on what? Beating the titans with prep? pffft. Nothing at all. Srank, you seriously crack me up dude, seriously. Your interpretations concerning Slade are so twisted beyond belief.

Again, no, I left it out because nothing happened there, at all, but you go ahead and make your hilariously inaccurate statements.

Slade was obviously shown easily superior to Batman in that showing, but ultimately foiled due to his underestimation of an extremely determined Bruce Wayne. Try looking at it again, Srank, maybe without your burning need to lowball everything Slade does.

Originally posted by namorsubby
1. Captain America "sensing subtle shifts in the air" literally translates in him feeling the air move as BP moved. lol, but it sounds so much more impressive that way.

Batman heard the sound of a sniper bullet being fired. Please know what you're talking about.

Slade's feat literally states he utilizes a superhuman ability to detect the subtle shifts in the ground [b]before these geokinetic characters actually attack. The fact that he needs superhuman senses to detect it should tell you just how subtle it is. Slade needed a more heightened sense(superhuman>human) to achieve his feat, and therefore it is more impressive. Pretty simple

My lord, Srank.lol, You obviously have no idea at all that Slade's "increased brainpower" is directly responsible for his 1000x increased superhuman senses. So just so you understand for next time, "increased brainpower" directly translates to "superhuman senses" when refering to Slade. Kay, pumpkin. 😆

Again, anyone with common sense knows Bruce won the second fight due to Slade's casual indifference and underestimation(CIS). Slade was most certainly shown the superior of the two in battle as well, being that he was sneak attacked each of the three times,and shrugged the blows, and put him down easily 2 of those 3 times. The 2nd time Slade literally put Bruce down with a freakin' backhand. You, of course, continue to ignore these facts, but then again, we all knew you would.

LOL, likely better than ever? based on what? Beating the titans with prep? pffft. Nothing at all. Srank, you seriously crack me up dude, seriously. Your interpretations concerning Slade are so twisted beyond belief.

Again, no, I left it out because nothing happened there, at all, but you go ahead and make your hilariously inaccurate statements.

Slade was obviously shown easily superior to Batman in that showing, but ultimately foiled due to his underestimation of an extremely determined Bruce Wayne. Try looking at it again, Srank, maybe without your burning need to lowball everything Slade does. [/B]

You are seriously obtuse. How you believe you are making a sound and coherent argument is seriously beyond me. Someone is going to have to write a thesis paper about your "condition" one day to get their doctorate, mark my work.

I'm done with you for now, but please feel free to carry on indulging your hopeless delusions.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You are seriously obtuse. How you believe you are making a sound and coherent argument is seriously beyond me. Someone is going to have to write a thesis paper about your "condition" one day to get their doctorate, mark my work.

I'm done with you for now, but please feel free to carry on indulging your hopeless delusions.

Walk off like a man would, leaving a lowbrow insult instead of any support of what you say, or even a civil "agree to disagree" Great job 👆

Originally posted by namorsubby
Yes, this way when you quit due to lack of an argument it doesn't look so bad. 😆

Walk off like a man would, leaving a lowbrow insult instead of any support of what you say, or even a civil "agree to disagree" Great job 👆

🙄

I'm not going to respond because you just keep rewriting the same post I just responded too... why would I waste my time? If you aren't going to come up with an argument that hasn't already been torn apart several times then just use your imagination and pretend I re-worded and re-posted my original response like you do. That way you can feel like you are contributing without wasting my time.

Yes, in other words, you're frustrated because you've accomplished nothing by the way of advancing your so-called argument, and now instead of being a honest poster and tapping out, or at least being a civil human being and "agreeing to disagree" without such rank utterings, that is, if you actually felt like you were in the right, you degrade yourself by resorting to base insults.

Like I said, great job, Srank 👆

We're done, because I'm done. Cheers.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Yes, in other words, you're frustrated because you've accomplished nothing by the way of advancing your so-called argument, and now instead of being a honest poster and tapping out, or at least being a civil human being and "agreeing to disagree" if you actually feel like you were in the right, you degrade yourself by resorting to base insults.

Like I said, great job, Srank 👆

We're done, because I'm done. Cheers.

I just can't be bothered with arguing with you. You are completely deluded and can't be reasoned with. You ignore the feats of every character going against Slade (because - lets face it - you have to for him to have shot at winning most of these fights), you distort and twist his own "feats" with a level of crazed fanaticism not seen on these boards since the time of Asian Hulk... and you even merge and draw parallels between completely unrelated narrative statements from different books, and pretend as though that some how enhances your stance. Ever point you've brought up has been addressed and every time you say "Yeah but..." and simply restate the exact same point again.

I have to distort/ignore feats, etc for Slade to have a shot with who exactly? Who exactly have I even argued for Slade against who "he doesn't have a shot with? Captain America? Elektra?

You're pretty much saying I have to be a crazed fanatic to support Slade vs guys like that(because I haven't once argued for Slade agaisnt someone he doesn't have a shot against), and I'm the one who's deluded?

Sure, Srank. Toss around your insults if it makes you feel better. This is the "BS" I was refering to earlier when I quoted/praised Konton and Stilt for doing what you simply don't, provide something concrete. People do, I concede, period. Ask them.

You just rant and rave, tossing insults once you've become frustrated like a child throwing a tantrum........in other words, you're full of it. BS, that is.

Wow just wow.

Has anyone read the latest Titans issue? Deathstroke evaded Osiris and took him out with some gas. Nice showing from him.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Has anyone read the latest Titans issue? Deathstroke evaded Osiris and took him out with some gas. Nice showing from him.

Thing is, Slade took out the dude that did that, and outreacted him in their first encounter(in which he dodged hosa bullets and removed his head).

Either way, it's pretty darn cool. 😄

DS, he's stronger, more durable, and faster. If he wanted he could one shot her.

Originally posted by namorsubby
That was actually Facade masquerading as Slade.

Thing is, Slade took out the dude that did that, and outreacted him in their first encounter(in which he dodged hosa bullets and removed his head).

Either way, it's pretty darn cool. 😄

Oh, that's right. He cut her HEAD off!`

Originally posted by h1a8
DS, he's stronger, more durable, and faster. If he wanted he could one shot her.

Luke Cage didn't one-shot her.
Either did Colossus' skrull.