Originally posted by srankmissingninSlade is inferior to Elektra in virtually every way? bit much?
Elektra for the high majority. Slade's strength advantage isn't enough to compensate for being inferior in virtually every way.
I'm pretty sure slade has her physically across the board(meta>peak), while only behind in skill, but no slouch by any means himself.
Originally posted by namorsubby
Slade is inferior to Elektra in virtually every way? bit much?I'm pretty sure slade has her physically across the board(meta>peak), while only behind in skill, but no slouch by any means himself.
Originally posted by Battlehammerno telepathy here mate.
Elektra has superhuman stats, and is a telepath with top notch skills. The only area slade bests her in is strength and durbaility (due to his suit).
It's almost hard to bring myself to argue this, but since Slade is stated to be superhuman in all physical attributes, and has more impressive physical feats, I'd say he's physically superior. I hope no ones even thinking her speed/reaction time is faster, because we all know slade has insanely fast reflexes which he has used to produce insane feats time and time again.
in short, I thought this would be a pretty darn good match(thats why I made it). Elektra had the skill advantage, Slade had the physical advantage......I thought that was pretty clear. One thing I'm sure of though, elektra is not superior to slade in virtually ever way, or taking a high majority against a h2h combatant who wrecks teams of superheroes with his bare hands.lol
Originally posted by namorsubby
no telepathy here mate.
Originally posted by namorsubby
It's almost hard to bring myself to argue this, but since Slade is [b]stated to be superhuman in all physical attributes, and has more impressive physical feats, I'd say he's physically superior. [/B]
Being states as superhuman means he better? how does one come to such a conclusion.
really which feats would theses be? I can already guess, but I hoping no one would stoop to such feats none the less I still wish to know which ones. becuase his bullet dodging and deflecting feats are in no way superior in fact she has superior bullet deflecting feats then he.
Originally posted by namorsubby
I hope no one even thinking her speed/reaction time is faster, because we all know slade has insanely fast reflexes which he has used to produce feats time and time again.
Originally posted by namorsubby
in short, I thought this would be a pretty darn good match(thats why I made it). Elektra had the skill advantage, Slade had the physical advantage......I thought that was pretty clear. One thing I'm sure of though, elektra is not superior to slade in virtually ever way.lol
Slade superior durability and strength against elektra superior skill.
slade is no physically superior to her in speed, agility or reaction time. elektra is a straight up meta human force.
Originally posted by Battlehammer*sigh*
thats not what it says in your opt...........Being states as superhuman means he better? how does one come to such a conclusion.
really which feats would theses be? I can already guess, but I hoping no one would stoop to such feats none the less I still wish to know which ones. becuase his bullet dodging and deflecting feats are in no way superior in fact she has superior bullet deflecting feats then he.
so does elektra.......
It is a good match.
Slade superior durability and strength against elektra superior skill.
slade is no physically superior to her in speed, agility or reaction time. elektra is a straight up meta human force.
1. it's says h2h, with no "seldom seen, obscure power usage allowed" written anywhere
2.I didn't say he was better because he's superhuman, he's superhuman because he's stated to be, elektra's not and only peak because she's stated to be, even if she regularly performs tasks we know are not humanly possible(much like batman, cap, or any other peak human)
3.umm, all of them.
he's dodged bullets just like her and deflected them with his weapon just like her. How can her bullet dodging/deflecting be more impressive?
4.not like slade. seriously though, argue anything else, but reflex/reaction time feats? vs DS? really?
Elektra is not a metahuman
Originally posted by namorsubby
*sigh*1. it's says h2h, with no "seldom seen, obscure power usage allowed" written anywhere
so deathstroke gets his enhanced mind, but she not allowed her telepath interesting.
Originally posted by namorsubby
2.I didn't say he was better because he's superhuman, he's superhuman because he's stated to be, elektra's not and only peak because she's stated to be,
Originally posted by namorsubby
even if she regularly performs tasks we know are not humanly possible(much like batman, cap, or any other peak human)
Elektra however is much different from batman. She has straight up stated powers on pannel learn through dark arts. Her powers come dirrectly through training give to her by stick you know guy who master supernatural and gave him self radar senses immortality ect. Her superhuman abilities dirrectly come from such training in the dark arts.
so please don't give me this lame ass attempt to ignore who abilities and power which have been shown consistently.
3.umm, all of them.
Originally posted by namorsubby
he's dodged bullets just like her and deflected them with his weapon just like her. How can her bullet dodging/deflecting be more impressive?
Originally posted by namorsubby
Elektra is not a metahuman
Originally posted by Prep-Manso was wonder women, when he engaged her one on one in hand to hand combat.
Didn't DS dodge Starfire pretty well and avoiding her blasts? She was even surprised of his speed.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Except for the fight they used numerous times and recently to boot.so deathstroke gets his enhanced mind, but she not allowed her telepath interesting.
were has she ever been stated on pannel at only being peak? come on lets see it.
for starters capt is not peak-human is enhanced he the next stage in human evolution.
Elektra however is much different from batman. She has straight up stated powers on pannel learn through dark arts. Her powers come dirrectly through training give to her by stick you know guy who master supernatural and gave him self radar senses immortality ect. Her superhuman abilities dirrectly come from such training in the dark arts.
so please don't give me this lame ass attempt to ignore who abilities and power which have been shown consistently.
3.umm, all of them.
becuase he never in mid air deflected machine gun firer all around his body with weapon as small as a sia.
yes she very much is, just becuase your extemely ignorant on the character does not change the fact she is very much superhuman.
*sigh* again. I haven't even got to the breakdown of how I think their h2h confrontation would go.I guess I never imagined that i'd have to argue on whether or not Slade's metahuman body had superior physical attributes.
anyway:
1.lol, yeah, pretty much. I wanna see how these people do against each other in a hand to hand fight, that's why wrote H2H(it's sort of like an acronym).
2. When is almost any peak human character classified as peak human outright said to be? we know because of stats presented to us in various forms. Elektra is a human BH........H-U-M-A-N. If regularly performing things real humans can't do makes you automatically superhuman in comics, than batman is at least high herald level.lol
3.it's not just cap, batman and every other peak human regularly perform things no one could ever do for real and you know it.
4.lol, I wrote that because I knew you'd say something about it, but really, his physical feats are more impressive.......and he's a real superhuman, that's no jive.lol
5. oh well, his weapon is inconvienently larger(sword), but his reaction feats still outdo hers.
6. Elektra is not a metahuman, but if we're all supporting your claim of why she should be, than we might as well start calling any peak human superhero superhuman.......and like I said before, Bats is at least high herald level.lol
Originally posted by Juk3nI apologize if you misunderstand my grievance here, but it has nothing to do with me relying on bios for info. I produce enough scans collectively for anyone with any sense to realize that they obviously hold some sort of significance to me.
Elektra is superhuman, her respect thread bares the proof. Let go of the "titles". Read less bios
It's just that every other classifed peak human performs "superhuman" feats without having to be tagged with that title, why not elektra? why is she the exception?
Originally posted by namorsubby
I apologize if you misunderstand my grievance here, but it has nothing to do with me relying on bios for info. I produce enough scans collectively for anyone with any sense to realize that they obviously hold some sort of significance to me.It's just that every other classifed peak human performs "superhuman" feats without having to be tagged with that title, why not elektra? why is she the exception?
Originally posted by 753
The problem is that the fact that slade is 'metahuman' and she is 'peak human' does not make him faster than her at all, even if he has 'superhuman' reflexes and agility. They're just lables and her speed feast are indeed more impressive from what I've seen of them both.
Pretty much.
Originally posted by 753
The problem is that the fact that slade is 'metahuman' and she is 'peak human' does not make him faster than her at all, even if he has 'superhuman' reflexes and agility. They're just lables and her speed feast are indeed more impressive from what I've seen of them both.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Pretty much.
the thing is, if you've seen some of slade's reaction time/speed feats, how could one even come to that conclusion? Reflex related feats are definitely slade's most impressive category, and most of them are not displayed against cannon fodder like elektra, but grade A, respectable, big name foes, often outmanuevering serveral of them simultaneously.
IMO, this is a great fight........I thought everyone would agree. I knew Elektra was getting tons of respect around here(Srank's and Jinzin's scans are probably the main reason......they are awesome BTW), but I never expected anyone to makes claims like" Slade is inferior to elektra in every way" and suggest she can move faster than someone with genuine superhuman stats(and has more impressive speed feats anyway)
Don't you think they classify these characters the way they do for a reason? Peak humans do things humans can't all the time, in comics what's humanly possible doesn't exactly line up with the real world. you guys are taking feats you deem humanly impossible and therefore concluding for yourself that she is superhuman, but she's no different from any other peak human who regularly does those things.
one thing I do know, 8-9/10(high majority) against slade, not happening. Slade's physical attributes besides strength all > Elektra's........but if I'm not sure of anything else, I'm sure of this:
Slade Wilson AKA Deathstroke the Terminator is not inferior to Elektra in every way, period.
Originally posted by namorsubby
the thing is, if you've seen some of slade's reaction time/speed feats, how could one even come to that conclusion? Reflex related feats are definitely slade's most impressive category, and most of them are not displayed against cannon fodder like elektra, but grade A, respectable, big name foes, often outmanuevering serveral of them simultaneously.IMO, this is a great fight........I thought everyone would agree. I knew Elektra was getting tons of respect around here(Srank's and Jinzin's scans are probably the main reason......they are awesome BTW), but I never expected anyone to makes claims like" Slade is inferior to elektra in every way" and suggest she can move faster than someone with genuine superhuman stats(and has more impressive speed feats anyway)
Don't you think they classify these characters the way they do for a reason? Peak humans do things humans can't all the time, in comics what's humanly possible doesn't exactly line up with the real world. you guys are taking feats you deem humanly impossible and therefore concluding for yourself that she is superhuman, but she's no different from any other peak human who regularly does those things.
one thing I do know, 8-9/10(high majority) against slade, not happening. Slade's physical attributes besides strength all > Elektra's........but if I'm not sure of anything else, I'm sure of this:
Slade Wilson AKA Deathstroke the Terminator is not inferior to Elektra in every way, period.
It is a great match up, she is not superior to him in every way, there are sevral field he is better at, but I still believe her speed/bullet timing feats are better, not by a very big margin, but still better.
The labels are meaningless, look at Cassandra Cain, she is not a meta-human and yet, she is faster than a crap load of 'superhumanly' fast metas.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Didn't DS dodge Starfire pretty well and avoiding her blasts? She was even surprised of his speed.
Cheshire literally did the exact same thing and Kory exchanged the same dialogue with her as she did Slade.
Both instances had me kicking myself in the teeth in anger and betrayal.
I'll give Elektra a majority. Barring his jobbing of the JLA, Deathstroke really can't win a feat war against her.
