Elektra Vs. Deathstroke(H2H)

Originally posted by namorsubby
the thing is, if you've seen some of slade's reaction time/speed feats, how could one even come to that conclusion? Reflex related feats are definitely slade's most impressive category, and most of them are not displayed against cannon fodder like elektra, but grade A, respectable, big name foes, often outmanuevering serveral of them simultaneously.

Name them. 😈

Originally posted by namorsubby
and suggest she can move faster than someone with genuine superhuman stats(and has more impressive speed feats anyway)

Such as?

Originally posted by namorsubby

Don't you think they classify these characters the way they do for a reason?

"they classifying.." matters not. Name viable DS feats that Elektra CANNOT match/exceed in speed , reflex, agility and martial skill. Slades strength and durability edge are note worthy, but she stands a far better chance here then him. The skill gap is also note worthy.

Originally posted by 753
It is a great match up, she is not superior to him in every way, there are sevral field he is better at, but I still believe her speed/bullet timing feats are better, not by a very big margin, but still better.

The labels are meaningless, look at Cassandra Cain, she is not a meta-human and yet, she is faster than a crap load of 'superhumanly' fast metas.

Slade has enough of a speed advantage to toy with cassie casually, and has before. He also has enough combat speed while aided with his superhuman perception and calculation to engage and counteract a group of heroes along with Cassie.

Man, I still haven't even gotten to how I think the fight actually goes.

IMO, this is a lot like Elektra vs Wolverine. Although Logan is more skilled than Slade, slade's superhuman thought processes even the keel IMO

Slade is faster and stronger IMO, but he doesn't have the limiting factor that elektra pointed out to Logan in one of their fights(Logan should be able to take her anyway, IMO). She said she beat him because when he fought her, he thought to much about various things including no being lethal. Slade would have no such problem and has actually lectured people on that while engaging them himself.

Cass jobs to slade, search your heart, you know this to be true!

Originally posted by Konton
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I'll give Elektra a majority. Barring his jobbing of the JLA, Deathstroke really can't win a feat war against her.

There's just no truth in that statement IMO

One group diassembling feat is not all Slade has going for him, but I'm really started to think that this is the general perception among you and the others. Makes me wish wholeheartedly that I had been able to post all the material for my attempted revamped DS thread before my computer crashed.

Originally posted by namorsubby
There's just no truth in that statement IMO

One group diassembling feat is not all Slade has going for him, but I'm really started to think that this is the general perception among you and the others. Makes me wish wholeheartedly that I had been able to post all the material for my attempted revamped DS thread before my computer crashed.

You seem knowledgeable enough of the character.

His top 5 speed/reaction feats?

Originally posted by namorsubby
great example actually.

Slade has enough of a speed advantage to toy with cassie casually, and has before. He also has enough combat speed while aided with his superhuman perception and calculation to engage and counteract a group of heroes along with Cassie.

Originally posted by Konton
Cheshire literally did the exact same thing and Kory exchanged the same dialogue with her as she did Slade.

Both instances had me kicking myself in the teeth in anger and betrayal.

I'll give Elektra a majority. Barring his jobbing of the JLA, Deathstroke really can't win a feat war against her.

Has Cheshire surprised Superman as well? Because Slade has.

Originally posted by namorsubby
There's just no truth in that statement IMO

One group diassembling feat is not all Slade has going for him, but I'm really started to think that this is the general perception among you and the others. Makes me wish wholeheartedly that I had been able to post all the material for my attempted revamped DS thread before my computer crashed.

Yeah, like his fights with Cassandra Cain?

She was already mentioned in thread, and Slade had at least two fights with her. A character who, at her best, was stepping between bullets followed closely together like something out of The Matrix.

Slade wrecked the Titans teams a number of times. Various groupings and stuff. He's done it like 3 times just in the current series alone[in what like 70 issues or so? Decent average]. He also wrecked a few B list teams casually in his ongoing. The guy is built to be a team wrecker. He just ends up in street level books because that's where he appears to be the biggest threat when he's seen on panel.

For example;
In somewhat of a Infinite Crisis tie in issue in "Batman", Slade representing the Society drops into Gotham by Helicopter, even though he's just there momentarily for a conversation, just seeing him in the city made Jason and Bruce about shit themselves, cussing in unison.

He's just seen as a huge threat to street level competition.

Yes, Slade has certainly been defeated a couple times by DC's top street levelers,[shit, even Grundy and Grodd have been taken down by Batman] but even those are -considerably- the odd ones out next his other feats and battles.

Originally posted by Juk3n
You seem knowledgeable enough of the character.

His top 5 speed/reaction feats?

but for now, raincheck 😖hifty:

Originally posted by namorsubby
I'll give you more than that.........

but for now, raincheck 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Juntai
You need to get that respect thread done, man. 😄

...........but now I do.lol

I just started accumulating scans again today, It won't be too long at all now.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Has Cheshire surprised Superman as well? Because Slade has.

What would you say is SM' reaction time? And Slade's?

Slade isn't superhuman. DC stance seems to be "almost superhuman".

Slade has been coined a man with the strength of 10 men kind of like Cap was in the old Invader series.

Slades stats are being overrated in this thread but not as much as Elektra stats are being grosly overrated in this thread. Stat wise Slade are better but its Elektra skill that will give Slade problems for sure.

Characters like Daredevil, Shiva, Batgirl, Batman, Shang Chi, and Elektra do worldly things that look superhuman on paper but are just top humans in there verse and that's whats being confused IMHO.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Slade isn't superhuman. DC stance seems to be "almost superhuman".

Slade has been coined a man with the strength of 10 men kind of like Cap was in the old Invader series.

Slades stats are being overrated in this thread but not as much as Elektra stats are being grosly overrated in this thread. Stat wise Slade are better but its Elektra skill that will give Slade problems for sure.

Characters like Daredevil, Shiva, Batgirl, Batman, Shang Chi, and Elektra do worldly things that look superhuman on paper but are just top humans in there verse and that's whats being confused IMHO.

if this was the rating system slade would barely reach 0.1 on the superhuman scale..

Batman = Slade

0.1.. -0.0+ 0.1

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
if this was the rating system salde would barely reach 0.1 on the superhuman scale..

Batman = Slade

0.1.. -0.0+ 0.1

yes, he is immortal but that doesnt make him a clearly superior to other street lvlers he is barely above them and not by much..

Originally posted by iceman24567
Pretty sure Slade is super human

DC stance had him at "almost superhuman".

Which has been referenced for Black Panther and Cap as well.

I'm sure you could find some ambiguous comment of him being termed super trooper but its not like we have ever seen before on other enhanced characters.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
yes, he is immortal but that doesnt make him a clearly superior to other street lvlers he is barely above them and not by much..