X-23 vs Deathstroke

tagging impulse when he stopped for a second looking for ppl in a fire slade shot him while he was distracted..

fighting with impulse slade was getting hammered but impulse wasnt moving at mach speed just fast enough to hammer him without killing him.. he was also talking so must be below mach 1 then slade regain the advantage with a surprise attack using the knife as a distraction impulse twisted out of the way but was still kicked from an incoming attack..

also not enough of a speed feat to give him an advantage when X23 can tank those attacks and would be stun for follow up attacks

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Make time. uhuh

Or send me the scans so I can make one.

Originally posted by 753
Yeah well, it is PIS and jobbing. No matter how many times it happens, it is always dependent on a blunder byt he flash. The point is the feat is meaningless as it doesn't prove anything about DS's speed being higher than anybody because the flash must be moving slowly for it to happen and deathstroke himself gets tagged by and misses far slower opponents all the time.

So its not just Flash jobbing, its just that Deathstroke really does have superspeed.

Not that hard to figure out. 😬

i remember a scan where slade told flash or speed boy he is as fast as his thoughts.. ect ect somewhere along those lines.. you know how many MA'ers say that or have that as a feat?

You say that Laura will tank an attack that vaporized an helicopter without slowing down?

And you say that something uncanny for DS doesn't work no matter how many times is done while you accept Wolverine resists several class 100 punches without slowing down.

You talk a cryptic language my friend.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
He's also outreacted Superman and thwarted a speedblitz by Beast Boy while Beast Boy was morphed into a Cheetah.

So its not just Flash jobbing, its just that Deathstroke really does have superspeed.

Not that hard to figure out. 😬

I can buy the cheetah thing, but outreacted superman? Really? That's reasonable in your view?

Originally posted by 753
I can buy the cheetah thing, but outreacted superman? Really? That's reasonable in your view?

i didnt say that at all.. if you were actually paying attention and the reference of what i was talking about you realize i was referring to a knife and kick punch attacks not a staff attack..

and by the way his staff has also failed to incinerate guys like flash and guys like beast boy b4 the modern one time display of blowing up a chopper which by the way an high narrow energy blast would have the same effect if it hit the gas tank..

now if beast boy and flash can take hits from the staff sure as hell can x23 so long as it isnt the new standard.. also i appreciate it if you didnt try to straw man my arguments and try to argue something i never said..

another person who has taken the staff blast was kory in the 80's when she was only as strong as 10 or 50 men when she had a lower durability lvl then she has now iirc...

but to be fair the 80's DCU was all over the place when it came to powers and consistencies

Originally posted by Q99
I don't think she developed the emotion of pissed-off until most of the way through her NXM run, so that's your problem right there 🙂 She's an emotionless weapon on a mission who speaks in clinical/technical terms.

Doesn't talk like Laura, act like Laura, or fight like Laura. It's really obvious it wasn't her character.

lol

You mean one of the many emotion she's displayed all through out Uncanny, both her mini series, NYX and MTU, all of which predated NXM? 😱

Because she doesn't understand how to be human doesn't mean she isn't. Proportionally she is more emotion, and has cried and gone of the handle more than most characters. Even her trigger sent works on bases of memory recall. It drives her into a rage because she remembers getting tortured and water boarded in a vat of it, not magic.

In my opinion the deal breaker on this battle is DS having a ranged option, his reflexes are good enough to make it effective. I wouldn't have good odds for him on h2h.

Deathstroke hits the Flash because the Flash is an idiot, not because Slade is fast enough to do it. He predicts where Flash will end up and buts his attack there... and the Flash basically runs into it.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Deathstroke hits the Flash because the Flash is an idiot, not because Slade is fast enough to do it. He predicts where Flash will end up and buts his attack there... and the Flash basically runs into it.

b/c he has studied flash and has his experience to draw from he doesnt know how X23 is going to react so its not the same..

that is why some characters do better with other characters due to familiarity

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
b/c he has studied flash and has his experience to draw from he doesnt know how X23 is going to react so its not the same..

Its not like X-23 is some Quicksilver level speedster anyway.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
So how does this translate to him not being able to keep up with X-23? If you admit he can anticipate Flash's movements then he could damn well do the same for the much slower X-23.

He predicts Flash because Flash is apparently an idiot, it isn't something he can't do against street level MAs. Bronze Tiger has kicked his ass. Batman has stalemated him. Nightwing has kicked his ass... three times. Azreal stalemated him. Eddie Fryers beat him. Deadshot stalemate him, twice. Batgirl has but the boots to him. Three of Jokers henchmen have even kicked his ass before.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
b/c he has studied flash and has his experience to draw from he doesnt know how X23 is going to react so its not the same..

that is why some characters do better with other characters due to familiarity

also batman has grabbed impulse hair was he was blitzing all over the place...

dick grayson also lasso'ed flash while he was also blitzing all over the place...

what does that tell you about them? how do you explain what they do especially when individually they all give slade fits and he actually misses a lot with them in h2h combat

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He predicts Flash because Flash is apparently an idiot, it isn't something he can't do against street level MAs. Bronze Tiger has kicked his ass. Batman has stalemated him. Nightwing has kicked his ass... three times. Azreal stalemated him. Eddie Fryers beat him. Deadshot stalemate him, twice. Batgirl has but the boots to him. Three of Jokers henchmen have even kicked his ass before.

he has fought half those people you named while they were in groups with others. NW didn't beat him 3 times, BT didn't kick his ass.....and I'm sure there's much, much more wrong with that particular statement

low end feats......everybody has them. You're lowballing Slade man, plain and simple

Where are the scans - and perhaps more importantly, the context - behind Slade apparently getting his ass kicked by all of these people? I know for a fact that Batman didn't stalemate Slade cleanly in their first encounter as much as he got beat down by a disinterested Slade. And the instance where Bats kept attacking a Slade trying to assassinate someone else isn't exactly what I'd call a "stalemate" in terms of a one on one contest.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
also batman has grabbed impulse hair was he was blitzing all over the place...

dick grayson also lasso'ed flash while he was also blitzing all over the place...

what does that tell you about them? how do you explain what they do especially when individually they all give slade fits and he actually misses a lot with them in h2h combat

a couple of poor showings against MAs almost always harbors these results.

Slade can beat Batman, nightwing, cassie, and other high end MAs in an h2h confrontation, and they know it