that is not low balling slade that is his standard ability within his powerset. taking on groups of meta is more jobbing then not, not his actual ability to fight them.. otherwise if flash was moving at ftl speed he never would have set off the booby trap and slade would never have bn able to position the sword..
flash is a guy who can empty a city b4 ppl can blink why didnt disarm slade at that lvl of speed no amount of prep would counter flash.. flash would have the world frozen
Originally posted by namorsubby
he has fought half those people you named while they were in groups with others. NW didn't beat him 3 times, BT didn't kick his ass.....and I'm sure there's much, much more wrong with that particular statementlow end feats......everybody has them. You're lowballing Slade man, plain and simple
By half those people you mean Nightwing, Batman and Batgirl? I think the only time he has fought Batman in a group was Infinity Crisis, and that wasn't much of a fight, just Batman, Nightwing and Robin kicking the crap out of him together; and he's always had prep when he has fought Nightwing or Cass in larger groups. Nightwing has beaten Slade three times, and Bronze Tiger was kicking the shit out of him.
I'm not low balling Slade, you are just taking prep time feats and examples of him hitting Flash as valid examples of how a one on one fight with no prep would play out, which makes you off your bloody rocker.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Where are the scans - and perhaps more importantly, the context - behind Slade apparently getting his ass kicked by all of these people? I know for a fact that Batman didn't stalemate Slade cleanly in their first encounter as much as he got beat down by a disinterested Slade. And the instance where Bats kept attacking a Slade trying to assassinate someone else isn't exactly what I'd call a "stalemate" in terms of a one on one contest.
Slade beat Bruce with casual "disinterest"? He was so hurt he could barely stand afterwards and had to bind his arm. And its not like Batman was all gungho either, he just wanted to talk to Slade and get some answers - he didn't even use any of his gadgets (while Slade use his staff as a melee weapon and a raged blast or two) Don't get it twisted.
Originally posted by srankmissingninlol, no you're just assuming all that. How very intelligent of you.
By half those people you mean Nightwing, Batman and Batgirl? I think the only time he has fought Batman in a group was Infinity Crisis, and that wasn't much of a fight, just Batman, Nightwing and Robin kicking the crap out of him together; and he's always had prep when he has fought Nightwing or Cass in larger groups. Nightwing has beaten Slade three times, and Bronze Tiger was kicking the shit out of him.I'm not low balling Slade, you are just taking prep time feats and examples of him hitting Flash as valid examples of how a one on one fight with no prep would play out, which makes you off your bloody rocker.
Prep feats and instances with the flash aren't at all Slade has to offer, but you seem to think it is.
1. You're way overdoing it with the exaggeration. BT didn't beat the shit outta anybody.
2. Your facts are whacked. NW hasn't beat slade three times......and he certainly couldn't take slade in a h2h match where he doesn't get to hit and run away....like oh say, a forum match? lol
neither can Batman, or cassie, or any of the rest.
Batman never stalemated slade, cassie got humiliated, and Slade hardly ever literally preps when he takes on the titans He just knows them so well by now, but that in no way should undermine the fact that he has enough battle savy to engage them all in close combat.
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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Slade beat Bruce with casual "disinterest"? He was so hurt he could barely stand afterwards and had to bind his arm. And its not like Batman was all gungho either, he just wanted to talk to Slade and get some answers - he didn't even use any of his gadgets (while Slade use his staff as a melee weapon and a raged blast or two) Don't get it twisted.
Bottom line, when slade got serious near the end, he beat batman like a red-headed stepchild.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Slade beat Bruce with casual "disinterest"? He was so hurt he could barely stand afterwards and had to bind his arm. And its not like Batman was all gungho either, he just wanted to talk to Slade and get some answers - he didn't even use any of his gadgets (while Slade use his staff as a melee weapon and a raged blast or two) Don't get it twisted.
Slade had no intention on fighting Bruce. He could have given a flying rat's ass about Batman, who had every intention on bringing Slade in. He couldn't do it, even after ambushing him at the end of the scuffle. Slade walked away hurting, but that's more than what could be said for Batman who was KTFO. So, no, I'm not twisting anything.
Originally posted by Wild ShadowBatman was able to dodge Titans Tommorrow Superman's Heat vision. If his beams truly moved at the speed of light, he couldn't have......
Dick grayson was able to stop a sword swipe to the head from slade if slade had vastly superhuman reaction dick wouldnt have bn able to pull that feat..
No one wants to see NW head get taken off, but the point is, Slade can take nightwing easily, and NW himself knows it. He can take Batman in h2h easily, and has never even really wanted to fight bats, even when he kicked his hiney
Originally posted by namorsubby
lol, no you're just assuming all that. How very intelligent of you.Prep feats and instances with the flash aren't at all Slade has to offer, but you seem to think it is.
1. You're way overdoing it with the exaggeration. BT didn't beat the shit outta anybody.
2. Your facts are whacked. NW hasn't beat slade three times......and he certainly couldn't take slade in a h2h match where he doesn't get to hit and run away....like oh say, a forum match? lol
neither can Batman, or cassie, or any of the rest.
Batman never stalemated slade, cassie got humiliated, and Slade hardly ever literally preps when he takes on the titans He just knows them so well by now, but that in no way should undermine the fact that he has enough battle savy to engage them all in close combat.
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Bottom line, when slade got serious near the end, he beat batman like a red-headed stepchild.
Bronze Tiger was kicking his ass, Slade ran away from him. Read the comic.
Nightwing has beaten Slade three times. Embarrassed him even. Obviously he doesn't have much a shot of beating him in forum match, but as Nightwing has demonstrated if he can get the opening hit he can dominate Slade for a short time thanks to his speed and his skill, both of which are above that of DS.
Batman did stalemate Slade, and Cassie humiliated Slade. Slade almost always preps when he fights the Titans.
Oh and Vandal Savage beat him to death as well, but Slade got better.
Without prep Slade is second string. He doesn't have the skill to handle someone like X-23. His superhuman stats are barely enough to give him a win against the street levels he fights now in h2h. He isn't strong enough, fast enough or skilled enough to win this fight. His weaponry isn't powerful enough and he doesn't heal fast enough. With out prep he is out of his element. That is just a fact.
Originally posted by srankmissingninI have........that fight led to his altercation with deadshot, which I've posted in my thread.
Bronze Tiger was kicking his ass, Slade ran away from him. Read the comic.Nightwing has beaten Slade three times. Embarrassed him even. Obviously he doesn't have much a shot of beating him in forum match, but as Nightwing has demonstrated if he can get the opening hit he can dominate Slade for a short time thanks to his speed and his skill, both of which are above that of DS.
Batman did stalemate Slade, and Cassie humiliated Slade. Slade almost always preps when he fights the Titans.
lol, I have no idea where you're getting this from, but at least once I've seen slade knocked NW on his ass in a few moves.....then he and his titans girlfriend call for backup.
NW has even said himself "slade could kill me without breaking a sweat".
what more do you need?
lol, now you're saying nightwing is faster than slade? And I'm the one of my rocker?
no, that supposed "stalemate" you're talking about is when DS was trying to do a job and not even worried about bats at all.
Cassie never humiliated slade, but he for sure has humiliated her. and slade had no prep when he whooped her ass along with nightwing and several assorted teen titans members. He just knows them, and therefore knows how to beat them.
The whole "prep" thing is way different for slade anyway. He may analyze them away from the fight, but when he beats teams, he does so in close combat with them. It's not nearly them same
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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Oh and Vandal Savage beat him to death as well, but Slade got better.Without prep Slade is second string. He doesn't have the skill to handle someone like X-23. His superhuman stats are [b]barely
enough to give him a win against the street levels he fights now in h2h. He isn't strong enough, fast enough or skilled enough to win this fight. His weaponry isn't powerful enough and he doesn't heal fast enough. With out prep he is out of his element. That is just a fact. [/B]
nope.....just plain old denial
Originally posted by namorsubby
I have........that fight led to his altercation with deadshot, which I've posted in my thread.lol, I have no idea where you're getting this from, but at least once I've seen slade knocked NW on his ass in a few moves.....then he and his titans girlfriend call for backup.
NW has even said himself "slade could kill me without breaking a sweat".
what more do you need?
lol, now you're saying nightwing is faster than slade? And I'm the one of my rocker?
no, that supposed "stalemate" you're talking about is when DS was trying to do a job and not even worried about bats at all.
Cassie never humiliated slade, but he for sure has humiliated her. and slade had no prep when he whooped her ass along with nightwing and several assorted teen titans members. He just knows them, and therefore knows how to beat them.
The whole "prep" thing is way different for slade anyway. He may analyze them away from the fight, but when he beats teams, he does so in close combat with them. It's not nearly them same
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nope.....just plain old denial
Than you should know BT kicked his ass.
Slade's class two. If he lands a single hit on Nightwing that swings the course of the fight instantly in his favour. Still Nightwing has put the boots to Slade himself a few times. Not really a matter for debate. Obviously the majority of the time Slade kicks his ass.. but the majority of the time he also either has prep or gets the drop on Dick.
Nightwing is faster than Slade. He has outright blitzed him before.
The first time Cassie and Slade fought he couldn't even touch her. She walked all over him he had to pull out a grenade and threaten to blow them both up to get her to back off.
Slade with prep and Slade without prep are two different beats. You think they are the same, but they aren't. With out prep he can bare beat the streets he fight, some of them aren't even peak human. He just isn't that good.
I'm an X-23 fan, and I think due to her mutant abilities she's above DS in terms of durability, and maybe strength (IIRC in her time being trained by Kimura she was said to be at peak human even before her X-gene was triggered) and she has a high powered healing factor.
However DS is gotta be ahead in skill. The guy handled members of the Justice Leage when being paid by Dr Light, and even reacted to Flash. He's probably faster than Laura is.
Hard to make a clear decision.
Originally posted by namorsubby
not soa couple of poor showings against MAs almost always harbors these results.
Slade can beat Batman, nightwing, cassie, and other high end MAs in an h2h confrontation, and they know it
Cassandra and Slade have gone up against each other several times and it's always been a draw (though one would assume his endurance would eventually give him the win if they fought it to the finish).
Aside from that, though, yea, he does great. Clear majority against Batman and Nightwing.
Originally posted by SamZED
SamZED Yeah, normally it takes him 1 to 3 moves to pwn NW. I think NW only managed to stalemate DS once which was an incredibly high showing for Dick. Most of the time Slade treats him like a punching beg.
Nightwing's gotten really good at running away from him 🙂 The stalemate time I can think of when Slade captured Man-Bat, was basically Dick lept at him and got a little surprise, landed a nice combo, then leapt away, inner-monologing about how if he gave Deathstroke the slightest opening that'd be it.
Originally posted by Q99When he was baiting her to introduce her to the new Ravager, she had inner dialogue mentioning that he was simply too fast for her and she was only keeping up because he was letting her, and that her body reading skills didn't work on him because of this.
Cassandra and Slade have gone up against each other several times and it's always been a draw (though one would assume his endurance would eventually give him the win if they fought it to the finish).Aside from that, though, yea, he does great. Clear majority against Batman and Nightwing.
Even Cass seems to understand she wouldn't be a threat if he had the agenda to put her down.