Doom could (and would, imo) give Strange fits, even in a straight out non-prep situation with Magics. Doom is only a little behind Strange on this front, but he has personal armour, magic items designed to defend against powerful magical forces (Loki, Nightmare etc) ... these would buy Doom enough time and space to launch a decisive attack (nuke the battlefield, for example) that Strange just cannot survive.
Originally posted by janus77Doom couldn't do shit to the MoD until he [the MoD] became exponentially weaker - Doom even admitted this (I can post the scan if you'd like to keep arguing about it.)
It is the only statement of events you will get (unless Marvel decide to revisit that story), so I don't see it as a situation where doubt is of any particular value. It's all about Doom besting the MoD, about Doom's growth and development beyond someone who was like an abstract-level version of himself.The whole point is that Doom took MoD down by cunning, willpower, magic, technology and humility, that he grew in power by careful study of and study with the Marquis. The levels of power necessary to beat MoD far outstrip all Strange's resources, imo.
Stop wanking this 'version'. No need for it (especially considering there's no solid evidence to back it up.)
Originally posted by BouboumasterDoom is every bit as formidable as Strange in a non prep encounter, not to mention this is the strongest version of Doom which stomps any version of Strange.
1- Strange
2- Doom
3- Doom stompThe fact is that Strange is weak (against Doom) because he's only overpowerful in one thing: magic. Strange is a MONSTER when it comes to it, and in an encounter, he would probably massacre Doom (That is why I vote for Strange at 1).
But Doom not only master magic, almost as much as Strange, but he's a master of science too. I'm pretty sure that he would benefit from it with prep. Like, launching a gas attack while casting spells, or something like this.
Originally posted by Galan007
Doom couldn't do shit to the MoD until he [the MoD] became exponentially weaker - Doom even admitted this (I can post the scan if you'd like to keep arguing about it.)Stop wanking this 'version'. No need for it (especially considering there's no solid evidence to back it up.)
I want to know what story arc this is.
Originally posted by janus77
It is the only statement of events you will get (unless Marvel decide to revisit that story), so I don't see it as a situation where doubt is of any particular value. It's all about Doom besting the MoD, about Doom's growth and development beyond someone who was like an abstract-level version of himself.The whole point is that Doom took MoD down by cunning, willpower, magic, technology and humility, that he grew in power by careful study of and study with the Marquis. The levels of power necessary to beat MoD far outstrip all Strange's resources, imo.
I don't see how doom was responsible for the f4's strategy to take MoD down. He only gave the final push towards th abyss. MoD sought the f4 for his own reasons adn they were the ones that defeated him. Doom followed and then took his oportunity to finish him.