Anakin fell to the dark side way too quickly

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or when luke was holding her, and told her "don't ever cross me" followed by an accidental admission that he loved her? I thought that was so broken forever by Sidious getting the truth out of Mara. Hopefully in the third book I get some amazing insight into why Luke forgave her so easily. I mean, he laid the stakes out, right before she left. She had his life in her hands, completely, and she still let him down. That would be tough to come back from.

I also felt cheated out of a duel between Vader and Sidious.

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You'll get closure on Luke's "forgiveness" in the third one, and I don't feel cheated out of a duel between the two of them because I think Vader knew exactly how it was going to end. Might as well make it quick and painless, right?

As a student of history, I was appalled with Luke's threat to erase Palpatine from galactic history (but I'm also the kind of person who thinks people should pretty much get the death penalty for desecrating a historical landmark or monument), but looking back on it, I thought it was simply awesome. Luke finally realized the Emperor's vulnerability: his ego, his need for glorification and aggrandizement. Going after his legacy was the ultimate revenge.

must not be cut out for EU very much cause I have no idea what u 2 r talking about.

It's a piece of fanfiction, not canon EU.

as such is it free & where can I read?

google it, i did and found it lol

Just start reading, and don't waste time learning what we are talking about. It will do nothing but confuse you for many many years if you don't have an actual grasp of what actually happened in the EU.

@Gideon

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Yes, THAT moment when Sidious suddenly had a weakness too was CLASSIC. I kept being frustrated at Luke passing on his moments to end it though. I kept thinking he was going to be the skywalker we all know and HATE by throwing the fight. When he finally went for it: Amazing.

And that moment where sidious realized EVERYTHING he had assumed about Luke had been a lie (because of Luke not being capable of killing vader) was also pretty classic.

I simply CANNOT believe how long these things are though.

Yes you can. It's the consensus around here that it's the finest piece of SW literature on ze planet (with the possible exception of Publius's works).

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I found it and brought it to you all, like Prometheus! 😄

I am sorry, sir! but, what exactly should I google, sir!

Publius's work was an essay though, right? Like Homer. Nobody likes homer, so i didn't read the essay.

And yes, you should consider the sn change to Prometheus. Gideon of the biblical story was a bit less.. of a literary provider... more of a stone-cold steve austin type killer.

Did Prometheus not provide fire, and was he not punished, sir?

Gideon

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Yes, THAT moment when Sidious suddenly had a weakness too was CLASSIC. I kept being frustrated at Luke passing on his moments to end it though. I kept thinking he was going to be the skywalker we all know and HATE by throwing the fight. When he finally went for it: Amazing.

And that moment where sidious realized EVERYTHING he had assumed about Luke had been a lie (because of Luke not being capable of killing vader) was also pretty classic.

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Blank and I discussed a lot of this via email at great length. From what he told me, the purpose of the story is to explain that despite Luke's considerable Force potential and good intentions, it was ultimately Palpatine's training that enabled Luke to get to that point. The narrative makes many references to the Emperor's training transforming Luke into the ultimate warrior. Gone is the humble farmboy and in his place is the coldly confident saboteur. The training wasn't perfect, because the last piece of Luke's earlier life -- his stubbornness -- is still there.

It was Luke's obstinance that kept him from simply electrocuting the Emperor to death at a certain point during the duel. Because if Luke did, then he pretty much would have sealed his fate as Palpatine's puppet forever.

Edit: Publius has written several stories and fanfiction. All around, he's my favorite author.

Never mind, went back a page and found it. "In shadows and darkness?"

MikeMikeTheMike
Never mind, went back a page and found it. "In shadows and darkness?"

Start with "Into the Storm" and then "In Shadows and Darkness."

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Indeed. brilliant stuff. and by getting rid of Vader, Luke can now make his empire EXACTLY how he wants it to be, without the outside influence Vader would have caused. I kept think Sidious was going to threaten Hallin's life in that last duel, because it seemed like THAT might have been enough to stop Luke as well.

"As per usual, I should point out that I own no part of star Wars, it's all owned and run by George. In fact, he's a bit like the Emperor but in a plaid shirt..." from the intro lol

TJ
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Indeed. brilliant stuff. and by getting rid of Vader, Luke can now make his empire EXACTLY how he wants it to be, without the outside influence Vader would have caused. I kept think Sidious was going to threaten Hallin's life in that last duel, because it seemed like THAT might have been enough to stop Luke as well.

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It's been forever since I've read the trilogy, but I'm pretty sure Palpatine did threaten him. Perhaps not directly and perhaps not in the heat of the duel, but Luke was warned that Palpatine would essentially torch the entire galaxy to make a point. What's really frightening about that is that Luke didn't doubt him for a second, which is almost as scary as when Palpatine was about to kill Mara in the first one, even though he raised her.

Wow, I'm out of it for a little while and suddenly everyone starts tempting me with spoilers about the story! Stop it!

Anyways:

Originally posted by truejedi
First, where is the confirmed kill of a Youngling by Anakin? Back that up?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Wow, I'm out of it for a little while and suddenly everyone starts tempting me with spoilers about the story! Stop it!

Anyways:

"Not even the Younglings survived." "Killed not by clones, this... Padawan. By a lightsaber he was." The second sentence immediately followed the first while the two were leaning over, as Obi-Wan points out, a group of dead Younglings (i.e. children).

right: a confirmed Anakin kill of a padawan. Not a youngling. Sorry, i thought maybe you had found something, i was searching the novelization and the movie for irrevocable proof that anakin killed a little kid. 🙁

Originally posted by Gideon

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It's been forever since I've read the trilogy, but I'm pretty sure Palpatine did threaten him. Perhaps not directly and perhaps not in the heat of the duel, but Luke was warned that Palpatine would essentially torch the entire galaxy to make a point. What's really frightening about that is that Luke didn't doubt him for a second, which is almost as scary as when Palpatine was about to kill Mara in the first one, even though he raised her.

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yeah, THAT was intense. I mean, we knew Luke wouldn't let it go that far, but still.

Did it surprise you that Luke didn't even bother to tell Mon MOthma the truth? That he wasn't a spy? I had thought that was pretty much exactly why he wanted to talk to her.