Grevious is very inconsistent. In the CWC he pwns 6 Jedi with ease. In the CW animated series he gets pwned by Kit Fisto. In ROTS he gets pwned by ROTS Obi Wan.
CWC Grevious wtfomg pwns Maul.
The latest CW series Grevious loses to Maul.
ROTS Grevious probably beats Maul due to his >20 strikes per second.
Well, Grievous isn't very consistent. imo I put Maul above TCW Obi-Wan, who was able to cut off two of his hands. Logically, if Obi-Wan is capable of taking him him in full form (being all of this hands)and taking him down to two hand then I would say Maul would also be capable of that. Grievous retreated from Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan would have won either way. The fact that people use the "Obi-Wan had to use a blaster" argument is flaw since not only is Grievous capable of more easily deflecting a blaster bolt, but Obi-Wan is a trained lightsaber user meaning he's more skilled in using a lightsaber than a blaster. Also, he was forced to use a blaster since he lost his lightsaber. It's not like it was destroyed be Grievous or anything. That's why I think that argument is flaw.
So, I wouldn't say he wins 10/10, but I think this fight could be a 50/50 split. That's just me though.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
ROTS Grevious probably beats Maul due to his >20 strikes per second.
GG (pre-smoker's lung) stomps. Hell, Maul would be hard-pressed to best post-smoker's lung GG, imo.
Originally posted by HewhoknowsallAnd in the Labyrinth of Evil novel, Grievous was portrayed as Mace's equal/near-equal in the saber department -- he even whipped up his own version of Vaapad, on the fly.
Grevious is very inconsistent. In the CWC he pwns 6 Jedi with ease. In the CW animated series he gets pwned by Kit Fisto. In ROTS he gets pwned by ROTS Obi Wan.
Originally posted by Omnislash Kid
Maul would be able to keep up with that considering jedi and sith have been shown to counter, deflect, parry, ect. strikes that fast and faster. Also, if Maul couldn't he wouldn't engage in direct combat with Maul. He would use his resources and then combat Grievous. Also, considering Maul is also a sith lord who has shown some of the best reflexes and speed I wouldn't say it's out of the 'realm of possibility' that he could engage in direct combat against Grievous. Hell, Obi-Wan did. Well, others did as well and most of them also died. I wont use Mace as an argument though since Mace > Maul.
Obi Wan was arguably the greatest Soresu master to have ever existed...and he was hard pressed to hold off Grevious. Maul uses Juyo, which is more offensively orientated, and isn't as skilled with it as Obi Wan is with Soresu.
Is there such thing as a saber contest without the force?
Due to the weightlessness of plasma and the strong gyroscopic effect generated by it, lightsabers required a great deal of strength and dexterity to wield, and was extremely difficult—and dangerous—for the untrained to attempt using. However, in the hands of an expert of the Force, the lightsaber was a weapon to be greatly respected and feared. To wield a lightsaber was to demonstrate incredible skill and confidence, as well as masterful dexterity and attunement to the Force.I agree, take away his use of the lightsaber, and he definitely loses a saber contest.
also, don't let the [absurd number of strikes per second] number fool you. Jedi are written to duel faster than the eye can see. That's pretty damn fast.
Originally posted by truejedi👆
Nope, Grievous handled 6 jedi at once, including Ki Adi Mundi and Shaak Ti at the same time. He is certainly not a chump. Maul couldn't have beaten six of them at once.
And there's also the Grievous/Mace duel in LoE (I only bring that up because I don't feel that Maul would do nearly as well as GG did against Mace.)
Originally posted by truejedithe only two who were noteable, and neither were anywhere near the caliber of manka, vader, or qui-gon.
Nope, Grievous handled 6 jedi at once, including Ki Adi Mundi and Shaak Ti at the same time. He is certainly not a chump. Maul couldn't have beaten six of them at once.
maul destroyed them both, manka, and vader, that is. also, as far as shaak ti and ki-adi, please forgive my ignorance of cartoon rip-offs of star wars, but didn't grevious simply not die from the encounter? Is that what we're giving him credit for, not dying?
YouTube video I count 5, and he kills the gay one without him even fighting back, then he defends himself against all four and manages to attack them one by one, killing 2 more extras.
also, what makes shaak ti comparable to qui-gon?
It is unknown whether this Maul was created through cloning techniques, by using some form of Sith Alchemy to restore and reanimate Maul's actual corpse, or through other means. The Prophets themselves stated that "there are techniques to mold a being in every way." As an example to the lesser vassals of Sidious's Galactic Empire and to put an end to the tainted Sith apprentice, Darth Vader, was chosen as the first target for the dark warrior. These dark side worshipers believed Vader to be too much of a Jedi to be a worthy Sith Lord. So they agreed that with Vader out of the way, Maul would once again become Sidious's apprentice and, with the Empire intact, together rule the galaxy.
do we doubt if sidious was sidious in DE just because he was a clone of himself?
also, he dominated Vader, making whether or not he was a clone or not a moot point.