Tarkin vs Thrawn

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You didn't know what it was? Its been around since I think Joruus.

And as early as KOTOR in the sw timeline.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
One of the big things about battle meditation is that it makes the individual troops fight better.

That's true. I was referring to the aspect where the user has control over the commander's of the different ships, so a better opportunity to give orders, and control the fleet.

Well I tried to make Tarkin have an advantage because of Thrawn's strategic abilities.

I Don't see Thrawn not having casualties though. I don't see him losing many ships at all. but one has to go down some time or another.

What is Tarkin's advantage?

DG
What is Tarkin's advantage?

Intellectually, none. But the reason I'd bet on Thrawn taking casualties is solely out of Tarkin's unmatched brutality.

I'm agreeing there. The TS said he tried to make Tarkin have an advantage, but I didn't see any and was asking what it is. I definitely think there will be plenty of casualties.

DS
I definitely think there will be plenty of casualties.

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Unless there's a one-hit-KO button (

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), Thrawn's going to have his hands full: Tarkin will be screwed, true, but he'll throw everything he has and the veritable fvcking kitchen sink at the relatively mild Thrawn.

I gave Tarkin all the Capital Ship busting fighters, Tie Defenders and Assault Gunboats.

Thrawn just has the Tie Avengers and Tie Phantoms (Non-Capital Ship assaulting fighters) but excellent for Intercepting and Defense.

Tarkin = Offense

Thrawn = Defense

Thrawn is just as ruthless as Tarkin, he just doesn't see the need to forecast it as much.

I'm pretty sure offense is Tarkin's only mode anyways.

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Originally posted by MasterAshenVor
I gave Tarkin all the Capital Ship busting fighters, Tie Defenders and Assault Gunboats.

Thrawn just has the Tie Avengers and Tie Phantoms (Non-Capital Ship assaulting fighters) but excellent for Intercepting and Defense.

Tarkin = Offense

Thrawn = Defense

Thrawn pwns him. he's a much better strategist and tactician than Tarkin. Thrawn is arguably the most skilled strategist/tactician in the SW mythos.

TJ
Thrawn is just as ruthless as Tarkin, he just doesn't see the need to forecast it as much.

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Thrawn's not even in Tarkin's league when it comes to ruthlessness. Tarkin blew up a fvcking planet, Thrawn's never demonstrated the same capacity for brutality, and I'm fully aware of Thrawn's manipulation of the poor Noghri.

Well, Tarkin's very ruthlessness was a mistake. By destroying Alderaan, he strengthened the Rebel Alliance. Thrawn would have made the same decision IF it helped in his overall strategies. We just haven't seen him in the same situation, or rather, a different situation where it would be a good choice.

Ah....the Noghri. That was one of the most fun levels of JK3. At least for me.

But, back on topic, while Tarkin apparently has more offensive power (which complements his sheer brutality and ruthlessness) Thrawn's got a solid defense and that might just be all he needs.

Thrawn's Fleet, 8/10. At least.

Originally posted by DarthDaniel1001
Ah....the Noghri. That was one of the most fun levels of JK3. At least for me.

But, back on topic, while Tarkin apparently has more offensive power (which complements his sheer brutality and ruthlessness) Thrawn's got a solid defense and that might just be all he needs.

Thrawn's Fleet, 8/10. At least.

Thrawn's fleet 10/10, unless if Thrawn has some brain problem 2/10 times.

TJ
Well, Tarkin's very ruthlessness was a mistake.

k

TJ
By destroying Alderaan, he strengthened the Rebel Alliance. Thrawn would have made the same decision IF it helped in his overall strategies. We just haven't seen him in the same situation, or rather, a different situation where it would be a good choice.

Thrawn's ruthless, don't get me wrong, but that ruthlessness is never his first option. Consider that he makes an offer to Jorus C'baoth in Outbound Flight for the Jedi to simply turn around and leave; he only opts to kill them after he's nearly been strangled to death.

Tarkin, on the other hand, would probably have just went LAWL and blew C'baoth to bits.

You're dealing with a civilized tactician who will resort to ruthless lengths if necessary against a barely restrained psychopath and utterly brutal military strategist.

Originally posted by Gideon
k

Thrawn's ruthless, don't get me wrong, but that ruthlessness is never his first option. Consider that he makes an offer to Jorus C'baoth in Outbound Flight for the Jedi to simply turn around and leave; he only opts to kill them after he's nearly been strangled to death.

Tarkin, on the other hand, would probably have just went LAWL and blew C'baoth to bits.

You're dealing with a civilized tactician who will resort to ruthless lengths if necessary against a barely restrained psychopath and utterly brutal military strategist.

You don't like Tarkin much do you? I'm personally not a diehard fan either.

Originally posted by Gideon
k

Thrawn's ruthless, don't get me wrong, but that ruthlessness is never his first option. Consider that he makes an offer to Jorus C'baoth in Outbound Flight for the Jedi to simply turn around and leave; he only opts to kill them after he's nearly been strangled to death.

Tarkin, on the other hand, would probably have just went LAWL and blew C'baoth to bits.

You're dealing with a civilized tactician who will resort to ruthless lengths if necessary against a barely restrained psychopath and utterly brutal military strategist.

I always assumed he made that decision because he didn't want Chiss space invaded by the Republic, but maybe that was just me.

DD1001
You don't like Tarkin much do you? I'm personally not a diehard fan either.

No, actually, Tarkin's one of my very favorite villains. For someone who is easily one of the most brutal characters in the mythos, it's not rooted out of sadism. Consider his iconic moment in A New Hope, he was smug and cruel, but not necessarily sadistic -- he genuinely thought that destroying Alderaan would deliver a fine point to the rebellion.

He really didn't do it for lulz.

Originally posted by Gideon
No, actually, Tarkin's one of my very favorite villains. For someone who is easily one of the most brutal characters in the mythos, it's not rooted out of sadism. Consider his iconic moment in A New Hope, he was smug and cruel, but not necessarily sadistic -- he genuinely thought that destroying Alderaan would deliver a fine point to the rebellion.

He really didn't do it for lulz.

Yeah, harsh viewpoint. He also committed genocide against the Omwuati and afterwards, his name was used in their language for the words "Butcher" and "Demon". (Beauty of the New Encyclopedia to Characters)