Tarkin vs Thrawn

Originally posted by DarthDaniel1001
You don't like Tarkin much do you? I'm personally not a diehard fan either.

Well, Tarkin was certainly incompetent and cruel, although one could argue that those are the defining qualities of a villian, or at least the latter.

Originally posted by Gideon
Intellectually, none. But the reason I'd bet on Thrawn taking casualties is solely out of Tarkin's unmatched brutality.

Something Thrawn'll use against him, it can easily be used to lure him into traps.

Thrawn'll do what's tactically advantageous, Tarkin'll try and do what'll make the most shock, which doesn't help in a fleet-on-fleet battle.

Originally posted by MasterAshenVor
I gave Tarkin all the Capital Ship busting fighters, Tie Defenders and Assault Gunboats.

Thrawn just has the Tie Avengers and Tie Phantoms (Non-Capital Ship assaulting fighters) but excellent for Intercepting and Defense.

Tarkin = Offense

Thrawn = Defense

That just means Tarkin is more vulnerable to losing his fighter screen and acting unsupported, and leaving his ships open for the basic TIE Bombers once the skies are clear for Thrawn's fighters.

Arguably that is a disadvantage for Tarkin, it's an exploitable mismatch. It lends to his style in a way that'll likely leave him overextended if he tries going hard-offense with them.

Even with equal commanders, the advantage on the fighter-on-fighter game is pretty useful.

Good point Q99. but the thing is Tie Defenders..are also excellent Fighter vs Fighter craft. (If you want to debate that, play the game Tie Fighter from Lucasarts. Get the Windows 95/98 Version not DOS)

They are even better than the Tie Avengers and to further my point they double as Bombers and Capital Ship Busters. So as you see, I didn't give Thrawn ALL the Fighter vs Fighter capability.

Still, we've got a small imbalance between the two, not a real edge, and Thrawn's the one who's going to seize on imbalances more.

Thrawn should take this pretty easy, and if the fleets were flopped, just as easily.

Q99, I really liked that last post.

Even with equal commanders, the advantage on the fighter-on-fighter game is pretty useful.

Thrawn.

Because....He's Thrawn?

Also, I would like some proof that this would be anything more than Thrawn's equivalent of a morning crossword puzzle as a morning wake-up.

Originally posted by Gideon
I'm pretty sure offense is Tarkin's only mode anyways.

😂

😖hifty: true.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Thrawn's fleet 10/10, unless if Thrawn has some brain problem 2/10 times.

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Originally posted by Gideon
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Thrawn's not even in Tarkin's league when it comes to ruthlessness. Tarkin blew up a fvcking planet, Thrawn's never demonstrated the same capacity for brutality, and I'm fully aware of Thrawn's manipulation of the poor Noghri.

Originally posted by truejedi
Well, Tarkin's very ruthlessness was a mistake. By destroying Alderaan, he strengthened the Rebel Alliance. Thrawn would have made the same decision IF it helped in his overall strategies. We just haven't seen him in the same situation, or rather, a different situation where it would be a good choice.

Originally posted by DarthDaniel1001
Ah....the Noghri. That was one of the most fun levels of JK3. At least for me.

But, back on topic, while Tarkin apparently has more offensive power (which complements his sheer brutality and ruthlessness) Thrawn's got a solid defense and that might just be all he needs.

Thrawn's Fleet, 8/10. At least.

EDIT: Sorry for the triple-post, thought someelse had posted too...