Darh Vader (rots) VS Darth Maul

Originally posted by Shoes
that pun...

Let's not forget that Maul manhandled Qui-Gon, who was considered one of the best swordsmen of the order at that time, and who dueled Windu to a standstill.

BIG ASSED FACEPALM!!! Look here Shoes: Qui-Gon battled Mace to a standstill when exactly? Long before Mace was the badass that he later became. Also, this was during a sparring session, not life or death battle. Because of this, I can almost guarantee you that Mace didn't utilize his Vaapad, as this would be careless use of the darkness within. Also, I cannot remember the source, but when Yoda sparred with Windu, he sensed that Windu was holding back... ALOT. Quit using past SPARRING matches as a gauge of ones combat ability, it doesn't work.

Originally posted by Shoes
that pun...

Let's not forget that Maul manhandled Qui-Gon, who was considered one of the best swordsmen of the order at that time, and who dueled Windu to a standstill.

Finally, someone who believes me Qui Gonn was Windu's equal. Vader was actually around as powerful if not more powerful when he was "in t3h z0n3". So in two weeks at his rate of getting better he could be that good.

Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
BIG ASSED FACEPALM!!!

cool

Look here Shoes: Qui-Gon battled Mace to a standstill when exactly?

TPM.

Long before Mace was the badass that he later became.

Before Vaapad, yes. Even so, TPM Mace would have no trouble killing OT Vader in a pure saber fight.

Also, this was during a sparring session, not life or death battle.

So he didn't kill him, meaning that Windu withdrew. Now why would Windu withdraw?

Because of this.

Even if your conclusion was accurate, the means you ended up there was completely invalid and false.

Also, I cannot remember the source, but when Yoda sparred with Windu, he sensed that Windu was holding back... ALOT.

Please get me the source.
Please tell me that Yoda specifically said that every time that Windu dueled with someone he held back.
Please tell me how this is relevant.

Quit using past SPARRING matches as a gauge of ones combat ability

Well of course it does. Qui-Gon is more or less unknown. His greatest feats were losing to Maul, and tying Windu.

, it doesn't work.

Actually it does. Quit blindly sputtering about meaningless and overall irrelevant details, it doesn't work.

I have one question i must know. When Qui Gonn=Mace Windu, was this the time when Windu and Dooku were equal?

The only source, to my knowledge, that indicates that Windu and Dooku are equals is Dark Rendezvous, set during the Clone Wars.

Ok while being a firm believer that darth maul secretly rules the world im going to have to give this fight to vader. Vader just has more tools to work with and hes a master of all of them if he couldnt beat maul with lightsaber (which he verywell could) he would just switch to throwing cargo crates around or something. Even with the two weeks after the severe emotional tramua vader wins

JT
Also, I cannot remember the source, but when Yoda sparred with Windu, he sensed that Windu was holding back... ALOT.

[quote]JT
Look here Shoes: Qui-Gon battled Mace to a standstill when exactly?

Shoes
TPM.

[quote]JT
Long before Mace was the badass that he later became.

Shoes
Before Vaapad, yes. Even so, TPM Mace would have no trouble killing OT Vader in a pure saber fight.

It's funny, because you can't.

😐

Heh.

Originally posted by Eminence
I would be willing to bet Lucien's life that no such source has ever existed in canon, and humbly ask that you refrain from making shit up.

Meh! I'd bet his life too, just for the lulz. As for the source... that's why I stated my uncertainty as to the source and validity thereof. I actually do not remember where I read it. It may very well not be canon. If that's the case, then my bad.

Vader stomps IMO which may not mean much since I'm new (first post ftw) but if Maul does something simple as call Padme fat he'll go on a hissy fit and stomp Maul.

Any version of Anakin in ROTS would win this fight. Light, dark, or "teh zone".

Yes, anakin was an emotional wreck. But maul wasn't perfect either. Are people forgetting how maul died in the first place? he defeated obi-wan by force pushing him down a deep hole and instead of finishing him, he just decided to d*ck around and make sparks. Then obi-wan thought of a way to beat him. a PADAWAN obi-wan at that. At least Anakin lost to a JEDI MASTER obi-wan....

a fight with maul and vader already happened and vader won so vader

I do believe that was a Darth Vader CLONE, amirite?

urite.

oops. darth maul clone.

We still have a Force Unleashed 3, so give it time.

Yeah dooku was prolly sidious's best hope for kill ani and we all know who replaced maul, and was kill by ani

Originally posted by Ketoshifter
Yeah dooku was prolly sidious's best hope for kill ani and we all know who replaced maul, and was kill by ani

Sids didn't want to kill Anakin. He wanted to turn him. Anakin was to replace Dooku.

Originally posted by Ketoshifter
Yeah dooku was prolly sidious's best hope for kill ani and we all know who replaced maul, and was kill by ani

i think maul, simply because he so much more nimble, he has a much better lightsaber prowess too. the only way i think vader would win is with his force powers, because he is lethal with those haha.