Originally posted by JakeTheBankthats not nec true.
All Thor has to do is hit either of them once with his Class 100+ fists, which he will do, and the match is pretty much over. They may not be KOed, but they'll be BFRed and won't be able to return to the battlefield in time. Either that or bury them under the ground.
I think thor will have a hard time landing a clean hit since both of them are expert fighters and have claws.
So you brought up a non point then?
Originally posted by Starscream MNo they wouldn't. You would die, literally.
not to belabor the point, but if a computer would run simulations of me playing kobe a billion times, I'm sure there would be a few instances where he either twists his ankle or gets a really bad cramp....ok he would still beat me. forget that example.anyways, I think srank means logan has the potential ability to mortally wound thor and hence you shouldn't dismiss this as just a herald vs any street leveler.
In one shot.
I never dismissed it at that (which has nothing to do with anything), and Srank wasn't trying to make this battle close either, he was trying to make it a blowout in Wolverine's favor, with or without Fagen.
Originally posted by Starscream M
thats not nec true.I think thor will have a hard time landing a clean hit since both of them are expert fighters and have claws.
Based on Thor's reaction and speed feats, he's going to land a strike on them and more than once. The guy has reacted to when the Enchanters haxxed Mjolnir, which usually flies at least at the speed of sound, and has moved out of the way at the last possible moment, to say nothing of avoiding blows/strikes in melee combat while landing his own.
Originally posted by Blanket
Srank wasn't trying to make this battle close either, he was trying to make it a blowout in Wolverine's favor, with or without Fagen.
uh
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I said Wolverine has the [b]potential to one shot Thor... not that he would or that it is even likely to occur. [/B]
Originally posted by JakeTheBankwell, I know he can land hits...but I don't see him landing hits that would bfr logan or daken
Based on Thor's reaction and speed feats, he's going to land a strike on them and more than once. The guy has reacted to when the Enchanters haxxed Mjolnir, which usually flies at least at the speed of sound, and has moved out of the way at the last possible moment, to say nothing of avoiding blows/strikes in melee combat while landing his own.
hulk bfrs logan sometimes because hulk doesn't give a shit about getting cut up so he can get close enough and even take a few stabs straight in the face...thor doesn't have that luxury
just my opinion
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Except for the fact he is a strategist not a fighter.. and one of the best strategists in the dc universe.
He's a fighter too, just not the king of the heap.
Thor's experience means next to jack. He shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as Wolverine in combat skill, the difference between the two in that area is almost as vast as their difference in strength.
Originally posted by Starscream M
uh
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine doesn't even need Daken. He'll take the high majority on his own. Wolverine is faster, more skilled, has a reach advantage, the potentially to one shot Thor and his healing factor will compensate for any damage he does take.
So, if Logan doesn't need Daken, and if Daken is worthless, what makes this any different from this: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=527742&highlight=Thor+versus+WOlverine+forumid%3A77
Originally posted by Blanketonpanel...what has thor done to logan?
But seriously, on panel Wolverine is only able to cause cat scratches on Thor, from the fight everyone seems to love.Why would this fight be any different?
I mean if we go by onpanel, than logan can't beat spiderman or captain america either
thor can't beat hulk
etc
all of which kmc dismiss
Originally posted by Starscream MGrabbed him.
onpanel...what has thor done to logan?I mean if we go by onpanel, than logan can't beat spiderman or captain america either
thor can't beat hulk
etc
all of which kmc dismiss
So we should attribute Wolverine's claws to do more damage then... based on... nothing?
You also missed this:
Originally posted by Blanket
from the fight everyone seems to love.
And you're notes are pretty skewed as well.
Originally posted by Starscream M
hulk bfrs logan sometimes because hulk doesn't give a shit about getting cut up so he can get close enough and even take a few stabs straight in the face...thor doesn't have that luxury
Pretty much.
Thor isn't an idiot, he isn't going to wade into melee combat against someone who could potentially one shot him to get turned into a pin cushion. He isn't the Hulk he can't afford to let himself get hit so he can land blow of his own, he isn't going to get into a shot for shot slugfest with Wolverine.
Have none of you people seen a fight before? People don't even want to get hit by guys wearing padding gloves. Most fights are two people circling each other throwing jabs to try and make an opening in their opponents guard... now image one of those guys had a katar on each hand was actively trying to kill the other one. For the life of me I can't even imagine how people who think Thor would win picture this fighting playing out in their head... seriously is Wolverine sleeping or something?
Thor is going to be on the defensive the entire time. His primarily concern will be avoiding Wolverine's claws, koing Wolverine will be a distant secondary concern. Wolverine on the other hand could give a f@ck about getting hit. He is going to be on the offensive and he is a faster, smaller target, with a reach advantage, weaponry and a sizable skill advantage. It's a no brainer.
Originally posted by Blanketmy point is in a fight, logan would only make peripheral cuts against thor or spiderman or any other important hero who lacks a powerful hf
Grabbed him.
But I hope you realize there's a difference between portrayals of battles, and outright damage scope.So we should attribute Wolverine's claws to do more damage then... based on... nothing?
You also missed this:
And you're notes are pretty skewed as well.
marvel would only allow logan to cut up hulk because he can heal quickly from it
Originally posted by Starscream MBruce, did you know you can use your brain once in a while?
my point is in a fight, logan would only make peripheral cuts against thor or spiderman or any other important hero who lacks a powerful hfmarvel would only allow logan to cut up hulk because he can heal quickly from it
I hope you realize this logic works in reverse. IE, disregard the Hulk fight because of healing factor (which gives them free roam), but use the Thor fight.
Or we could just use our brains, and look at what happened, and conclude from there... on-panel evidence of what happened and all.