Originally posted by marwash22i dont agree to prep time. makes things unfair and no one describes what happens exactly if a character has prep.
T1000. There's nothing in Starks standard arsenal that can defeat a T1000 and it wasn't specified that Stark had prep time, so T1000 rips him open like a can of sardines.Will an EMP blast stop a terminator? if so, Stark wins.
here they just bump into eachother.
phase through? Do you mean how he liquefied and slipped through the bars and the helicopter windshield? Using that ability he could slip through he cracks and attack Stark from inside the armor.
Yeah, Stark is screwed unless he can stall long enough to customize his armor so that it pumps out something cold enough to freeze the T1000.
Originally posted by marwash22
phase through? Do you mean how he liquefied and slipped through the bars and the helicopter windshield? Using that ability he could slip through he cracks and attack Stark from inside the armor.Yeah, Stark is screwed unless he can stall long enough to customize his armor so that it pumps out something cold enough to freeze the T1000.
Of course the T1000 can do that. But he wouldn't because he will never touch Tony, even if he can't fly higher than jumping height.
T1000 can only run as fast as a fit man who never tires.
Movie Tony has nothing in his repertoire to hurt the terminator, he can only defeat it Spiderman style! Guiding the enemy into a trap. Ironman would have no problem locating a Liquid Nitrogen tank and picking it up and dumping it on him.
Isn't Iron Man's Chest RT blast(uni-beam) heat-based. If not, what would make it so special from the repulsor rays in his gauntlets? That could seriously disorient the T-1000. His missiles would **** the T-1000 up, seeing what a grenade could do.
Iron Man can slow it down easily. The problem is killing it. Stark has tons of options here, not to mention the biggest one of them all; his intellect. I can only think of one for the T-1000; going through the slits of the suit.
Also, just because you put the restriction on Iron Man's altitude doesn't mean he can't fly rediculously fast, close to the ground. What kind of enviorment are they in? None of that stuff the T-800 had in the film will likely do any damage to Iron Man except maybe the minigun. I only say that because Stark was quick to jump out of the way of it when War Machine inadvertently pointed it at him. I still doubt that's going to prove lethal.
When did Iron Man have an EMP?
Tony has made the suit emit an emp before... though, I'm not sure if that was an upgrade or if it's a function of his standard suit. I'm also not even sure that it would work on a T1000.
As for the options the T1000 has, I still maintain that it doesn't need any weapons, just his morphing ability and strength. It effortlessly tossed around the T800 who was said to weigh half a ton. Strength coupled with the prying weapons he can morp his arms into, he can rip open the armor... he just needs to get close.
Stark is extremely intelligent but don't downplay the intelligence of the T1000, it's likely the most intelligent terminator in the entire series. You also have to take into account that it can scan mechanical/organic material which dictates that it would be able to scan Tony's armor and find a weak point.
Tony can easily slow the T1000 down, but unless he locates a significant heat or coolant source, he's not gonna outlast the T1000.
Originally posted by marwash22
As for the options the T1000 has, I still maintain that it doesn't need any weapons, just his morphing ability and strength. It effortlessly tossed around the T800 who was said to weigh half a ton. Strength coupled with the prying weapons he can morp his arms into, he can rip open the armor... he just needs to get close..
T1000 never displayed such agility to accomplish such a feat though. The TX had the added advanced machinery inside to do that but not the T1000.
Peak Human at best when it came to agility and speed. He ain't touching Stark.
Stark leads him to the plant with the Nitro Truck and the molten vats and weighs his options.
lol, the fight takes place near a metal works facility?
You have to remember that this is a fight, The T1000 is thinking for itself here and isn't under orders to destroy John Connor so it doesn't have to follow Stark like he did John in the movie. That said, i highly doubt it would be dumb enough to get lured into a situation where it could get tossed into molten metal.
You're correct about the speed and agility factor, but Tony will eventually run low on power... especially if he's both dodging and attacking. Again, i don't see Stark winning this unless he runs away and mods his suit or finds a substantial heat source.
Originally posted by marwash22In the comics, sure, not yet onscreen.
Tony has made the suit emit an emp before.
Originally posted by marwash22I don't see this happening. Stane couldn't rip open the armor. Nothing in the film pierced the armor. I don't see the T-1000 ripping it open. I do see him easily going in it in his liquid form.
Strength coupled with the prying weapons he can morp his arms into, he can rip open the armor.
Originally posted by marwash22The T-X was stated to be the most intelligent and physically superior of all of the Terminator models. However, for this match, the T-1000 is a bit more tricky opponent. The T-800 said the T-1000 knew everything he did, maybe even more. I would assume the T-1000 is smarter than the 800 series, just as the T-X is smarter than the T-1000. The T-800 is still a highly intelligent being when it comes to tactics, protection, and killing in general. I agree with you saying the T-1000 could analyze the suit for its weak spots. I can give you one: eye slits.
Stark is extremely intelligent but don't downplay the intelligence of the T1000, it's likely the most intelligent terminator in the entire series.
Originally posted by marwash22I agree with this.
Tony can easily slow the T1000 down, but unless he locates a significant heat or coolant source, he's not gonna outlast the T1000.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
I don't see this happening. Stane couldn't rip open the armor.
That's because he didn't try. He did crush his helmet/mask easily though. That said, I don't think the T1000 can rip it.
The liquid form method seems like a win to me. Once inside, just stab the crap out of him.
Originally posted by Darth MartinI wouldn't be so sure about that.
Crushing is different from ripping. T-1000 doesn't have the strength to crush the helmet.
T-1000 is able to take on the characteristics of other materials which effectively makes it as strong as whatever material he turns into. If it isn't already strong enough to rip open the armor, he can absorb the material of Iron Man's suit and become strong enough that way.
This is all moot anyway though, 'cause like i said before, if it gets close enough to touch Tony, it can just liquefy and kill Stark from the inside.