Batman vs Elektra H2H

Originally posted by leonidas
yo,

people seem to think you have a negative opinion of bats. where would YOU place him in relation to the other uber-h2h guys?

personally, i think h2h between them is very close but i give a very slight nod to bats. if we're talking both at full abilities, bats would have a tough time and elektra would take him i think because of her psi (as opposed to 'sai' heh--i crack me up) skills.

Personally?

Personally I think Batman is Bad. Ass. Although... Batman gets a lot of hype but doesn't necessarily always live up to it.

TBH sometimes I get surprised at the people who beat him or give him a rough time because I view him as the Cap of his universe... but well... he isn't.

I'd say Batman is up there with the likes of Daredevil in skill, but I honestly wouldn't say he's more skilled, not at all.

I agree that a h2h could be close between the two, but I'm not convinced he's more skilled than Elektra.

She's nearly as hyped as he is.

Well shes been a Skrull for years Im not sure for how long actually dont know what feats are hers and what feats arent

Pretty sure everything up through EOTS was her, at least that seemed to be the concensus after Dark Reign came out.

i wouldnt place elektra above bruce either. sure if she gets all her skills like tp and whatnot shed be above him. but in pure hth skill they are both close with bats getting the edge.

So.... why does he get the edge?

Originally posted by iceman24567
Well shes been a Skrull for years Im not sure for how long actually dont know what feats are hers and what feats arent

Originally posted by jinzin
Personally?

Personally I think Batman is Bad. Ass. Although... Batman gets a lot of hype but doesn't necessarily always live up to it.

TBH sometimes I get surprised at the people who beat him or give him a rough time because I view him as the Cap of his universe... but well... he isn't.

I'd say Batman is up there with the likes of Daredevil in skill, but I honestly wouldn't say he's more skilled, not at all.

I agree that a h2h could be close between the two, but I'm not convinced he's more skilled than Elektra.

She's nearly as hyped as he is.

i'd put him above dd, but agian it would be pretty close. he DOES have some low showings, but over the years i've found he may lose, but generally he comes back to beat whoever it is. and obviously he's got his fair share of high showings. i think the general consensus is he IS the cap of his universe. imo i think he has enough solid showings to live up to it.

his extensive knowleadge of all the arts. his ability to adapt. his battles with karate kid, etc... even when pre crisis val beat bruce he hinted that he would have beaten him the next time. out of 10 o give bruce at least 6/10.

Originally posted by King Castle
so you rather dismiss them rather then take them at face value, was the skrull version fighting skills and powers above of what she is normally depicted as?

Originally posted by leonidas
i'd put him above dd, but agian it would be pretty close. he DOES have some low showings, but over the years i've found he may lose, but generally he comes back to beat whoever it is. and obviously he's got his fair share of high showings. i think the general consensus is he IS the cap of his universe. imo i think he has enough solid showings to live up to it.

If this was a storyline fight, then sure I could absolutely see Batman adapt and overcome, but just being plopped down in some field or arena to fight Elektra or DD, I wouldn't think of him as more skilled.

Not IMO.

Originally posted by jinzin
If this was a storyline fight, then sure I could absolutely see Batman adapt and overcome, but just being plopped down in some field or arena to fight Elektra or DD, I wouldn't think of him as more skilled.

Not IMO.

that's fair enough. 👆

Originally posted by King Castle
so you rather dismiss them rather then take them at face value, was the skrull version fighting skills and powers above of what she is normally depicted as?

Originally posted by leonidas
i'd put him above dd, but agian it would be pretty close. he DOES have some low showings, but over the years i've found he may lose, but generally he comes back to beat whoever it is. and obviously he's got his fair share of high showings. i think the general consensus is he IS the cap of his universe. imo i think he has enough solid showings to live up to it.

basically. I see each of them as near equals, with batman getting a small edge.

Everything that happened in Bendis' Daredevil and New Avengers was a skrull as well as everything that happened after a point in EOTS.
In the Dark Reign mini they mention it was her when she took down the Helicarier but everything after that point was a skrull I believe.