Originally posted by BentleyUltron will just knock it off so long as his internal circuitry doesn't get smashed to bits by Juggernaut.
Now I'm quite sure encephalo ray is standard equipment for Ultron. I assume Cain's helmet cannot be magnetized, right?
I'm undecided on which occurrence is more likely to happen first.
Originally posted by zopzop
Nope. In What if : Professor X had become the Juggernaut, Magneto tried but he couldn't control the "metal" Jugz's armor is made of.
Non cannon, but I would believe it to be the case for canon Juggs anyways.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Ultron will just knock it off so long as his internal circuitry doesn't get smashed to bits by Juggernaut.I'm undecided on which occurrence is more likely to happen first.
Most primary adamantium Ultrons have resisted Thor's hammer and he regenerates. IMO Juggs should eventually overpower his regeneration and the forcefield which protects his inner components though.
When primary adamantium ultron was defeated it was because Hank pym had vibranium Whig disrupts metal....
Class juggernaught vs primary ultron...
Well if ultron gets the helmet off and uses his encelapho beam... That could work
Or if we say classic jugs means jugs with magic then jugs wins (before mephisto taking it from him or whatever)
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ He once shot force bubbles.Also, Ultron from Secret Wars was primary adamantium. Savage Hulk actually dented him enough for Wasp to get in there and mess him up. Although... Juggernaut doesn't have Wasp to take him out before Ultron manages to get that helmet off...
I'd say it depends on which Ultron we talk about, there were several adamantium versions which got damaged by separating the joints or smashing them against one another; there are others against which trying the same tactic has been impossible.
Did primary and secondary adamantium exist already during the Secret Wars? I just know the retcon exists, I don't know many things about it.
Originally posted by BentleyDon't remember any primary adamantium Ultron ever be damaged in that manner.
I'd say it depends on which Ultron we talk about, there were several adamantium versions which got damaged by separating the joints or smashing them against one another; there are others against which trying the same tactic has been impossible.
Originally posted by BentleyThe retcon never applied to Secret Wars. And it's far more limited than this KMC myth makes it out to be. That's just Wolverine fanboys trying to make Wolverine more special in one of the most insignificantly tangential ways I have ever witnessed.
Did primary and secondary adamantium exist already during the Secret Wars? I just know the retcon exists, I don't know many things about it.
Originally posted by BentleyThere is no statement. They took a statement from Ultron Unlimited where it's revealed that the first Ultron they destroy through teamwork wasn't actually adamantium, and Ironman's statement where he doesn't believe that so much adamantium could exist anyway and some other random and ambiguous statement from the past...
Is there any statement about the actual retcon at all? I suppose they talk mostly about the time Hulk destroyed adamantium.
... and assume that every appearance of adamantium -- excepting Wolverine and Wolverine-related characters of course, and Doc Ock, for some reason??? -- must have been secondary adamantium. Even the very first one from Avengers #66...
... yeah, I don't know how that last assumption managed to pass muster either.
I see, that's pretty much a nonsensical myth if they only pick Iron-man's passing statement as some kind of retcon. It wouldn't be a retcon at all actually.
There aren't that many characters that would be affected if adamantium could be bent or marked, Ultron, having a molecular arranger would be able to survive superficial manipulations. You may be right about it being a Wolverine related myth. I can vouch for Ultron's showings depending on which version of Ultron we are discussing and not so much about the adamantium grade.
Originally posted by BentleyThere's never been an actual retcon like at all.
Is there any statement about the actual retcon at all? I suppose they talk mostly about the time Hulk destroyed adamantium.
It's exactly what ODG said.
Also, I can't see Juggs doing anything to Ultron. Ultron however, I can see actually hurting Juggs, along with the whole beam thing.
