Originally posted by bluewaterriderYeah, they kept showing dreams in "Dreamquest" when Aron captured the F4.
That's what I was missing, then.Thanks, Branlor.
They did a lot of random shit in F4 comics that weren't canon. The best among them was when Doom was killing everyone including Hulk and Dormammu
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Just an Ultron robot
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You're not making sense.
Or, maybe you're making sense and I don't realize that you are because I don't know what story that's from.
Ultron has never been anything EXCEPT a robot, as far as I know.
If you're telling me there are different Ultrons, what does this one do or not do, what special feature did it have or not have, that makes it less formidable than whatever one you're thinking of for this thread?
Originally posted by bluewaterriderUltron has tons of weak little Ultrons in some appearances.
😕You're not making sense.
Or, maybe you're making sense and I don't realize that you are because I don't know what story that's from.
Ultron has never been anything EXCEPT a robot, as far as I know.
If you're telling me there are different Ultrons, what does this one do or not do, what special feature did it have or not have, that makes it less formidable than whatever one [b]you're
thinking of for this thread? [/B]
In that appearance, I don't think the real Ultron appeared at all. Just his army of Ultrons.
There's only been one real Ultron with adamantium. The rest of been secondary, and other random metals. And they are his "minions"
Think of it like a Doombot.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftThere's only been one real Ultron with adamantium. The rest of been secondary, and other random metals.
Ah, I see.
So the "Lady Ultron" that Sentry fought was some other metal, too, even as She-Hulk's may have been?
In which case the only confirmed stoppages of adamantium Ultron in memory for me are those Hulk, Torch, and Wasp managed in Secret Wars I.
mmm ...
Still not seeing an Ultron win here.
I'll think it over a bit more, though.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Ah, I see.So the "Lady Ultron" that Sentry fought was some other metal, too, even as She-Hulk's may have been?
In which case the only confirmed stoppages of adamantium Ultron in memory for me are those Hulk, Torch, and Wasp managed in Secret Wars I.
mmm ...
Still not seeing an Ultron win here.
I'll think it over a bit more, though.
Ultrons Tp and E-ray could both drop Juggy
Originally posted by bluewaterriderThat was the real Ultron, it was just Stark Tech. The Ultron Shulk beat wasn't the real Ultron. Just an Ult-Bot if you will.
Ah, I see.So the "Lady Ultron" that Sentry fought was some other metal, too, even as She-Hulk's may have been?
In which case the only confirmed stoppages of adamantium Ultron in memory for me are those Hulk, Torch, and Wasp managed in Secret Wars I.
mmm ...
Still not seeing an Ultron win here.
I'll think it over a bit more, though.
Galactus made Ultron look like a fool. The arc with the 'adamantium retcons' was where Pym beat Adamantium Ultron to death with artic vibranium.
He's lost before, but most times, it's outside of Juggs ability to replicate.
It was revealed in Conquest that Ultron can reassemble from having been inside of a star blowing up. Although it was never shown what metal he was made from then. But he was extremely powerful in that arc.
Ultron recently one shotted Thor and a bunch of Avengers as well. I doubt Juggs would laugh off a shot like that.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Except Ultron can...
I don't agree. Juggernaut's helmet will protect him from Ultron's encephalo beam, while his invulnerability will protect him from any other type of energy / disintegration / physical attack Ultron can produce.
Juggernaut's durability is way way better than e.g. Thor's or Hulk's.
