Mr sinister & Apocalypse vs Supergirl & Powergirl

mutants

There really isn't anything Sinister can do to the Kryptonians. Especially what we have seen Kara do lately.

telepathy?

not all Kryptonians are Superman

She's been trained to resist some telepathy. Especially since she's been training at Apokolips. Plus she's a whole lot faster than Sinister, so he wouldn't be able to form a thought, if Kara doesn't want to.

Same goes for PG. She's resisted telepathy before.

Telepathy doesn't come into it IMO.

The muties get blitzed.

both Sinister and Apocalypse are durable enough to withstand some attacks until they mind blast.

Also to resist some TP =/= resist one of the most powerful minds in MU

Originally posted by Warlord
both Sinister and Apocalypse are durable enough to withstand some attacks until they mind blast.

Also to resist some TP =/= resist one of the most powerful minds in MU

They aren't withstanding attacks from beings with Kryptonian level strength, moving at nearly or above lightspeed.

Exactly.

They aren't ending the fight before the muties can mindblast

Mindblast might not work. MM even admitted it was hard to get into Kryptonians heads, because of the shape of their skulls.

Originally posted by The Pict
They aren't withstanding attacks from beings with Kryptonian level strength, moving at nearly or above lightspeed.

Physical attacks means little to them.. Plus Poccy can just teleport and keep Sinister safe inside his own body, further protected by forcefields. Also keeping the kryptonians busy with trapping them in TK bubbles, reflecting heat vision back at them (or absorbing it) etc. Sinister WILL mindrape them, he took out Nate Grey ffs

Originally posted by Warlord
They aren't ending the fight before the muties can mindblast

A punch from Kara could knock them for miles, or into orbit. They'll be lucky if they are still in one piece after one punch.

Forum rules dictate characters will going all out, and that includes their top speed. Even if by some miracle the mutants survive the initial assualt, how will they lock their telepathy onto 2 beings moving faster than they can think?
While being pounded by foes far stronger than they have faced before?

Kara IMP Sinister to the sun. BYE BYE creepy man.

If that was the case anytime a 100 ton brick throws a punch people would fly to orbit.

as for telepathy to lock on them why not? speed might allow them to strike first but telepathy is not an energy attack - they don't need to target...they just need to think

as for stronger than they've fought before- they've fought the likes ofJuggernaut hulk etc...so i don't thin it would be much different strengthwise

LOL! Kara has done some viscous things to villains. She's MUCH faster than Sinister can think. If you think Sinister can REACT as fast, please give examples.

so this is a quickdraw fight?
whoever acts first wins?
nah....

most likely will go like this:
she will blitz, punch him, he endures, he mindblasts her

otherwise let's all stop making threads with speedsters against guys without superspeed

Originally posted by Warlord
If that was the case anytime a 100 ton brick throws a punch people would fly to orbit.

as for telepathy to lock on them why not? speed might allow them to strike first but telepathy is not an energy attack - they don't need to target...they just need to think

as for stronger than they've fought before- they've fought the likes ofJuggernaut hulk etc...so i don't thin it would be much different strengthwise

Kryptonians aren't standard 100 ton bricks, besides I didn't say that's what will happen but that's what Kara could do.

It's not as simple as thinking. They will be moving faster than they can think and act. Besides you think they can concentrate while getting whaled on by Krptonians? No chance.

Juggernaut and Hulk weren't moving at ftl. And at base strength Supergirl is above Hulk and Juggernaut.

At first, I think Kara will go down to maybe even Sinister. After she's figured out his mental abilities, she won't waste anytime. Remember, she actually uses her speed. PG has done so in her latest series as well.

All Kara has to do is BFR Sinister, like she has done in the PAST.

Apocalypse is the REAL danger here.

When he's actually in the middle of being beat on I doubt he'll be that clear headed to use his powers well.

Originally posted by The Pict
Kryptonians aren't standard 100 ton bricks, besides I didn't say that's what will happen but that's what Kara could do.

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Originally posted by The Pict
It's not as simple as thinking. They will be moving faster than they can think and act. Besides you think they can concentrate while getting whaled on by Krptonians? No chance.

that might work, but it's one fight outcome

Originally posted by The Pict
And at base strength Supergirl is above Juggernaut.

I dissagree...base Hulk yes...Juggernaut, Idon't think so