Mr sinister & Apocalypse vs Supergirl & Powergirl

I love Juggernaut. He's the man. But he's more about durability, not strength IMO.

Besides was this classic Juggernaut they tangled with? Depowered Juggernaut was a shadow of his former self.

Apoc is not the real danger here.. but he is more than capable to keep the girlies off while Essex does his thing. Grow to 100 ft, force fields, teleporting, telekinesis, energy absorption, malleability, go intangible, super fast reflexes etc.

Originally posted by The Pict
I love Juggernaut. He's the man. But he's more about durability, not strength IMO.

Besides was this classic Juggernaut they tangled with? Depowered Juggernaut was a shadow of his former self.

Agreed depowered Juggernaut is a shadow...however before that he was able to matcch WWHulk in strength which is > Power Girl IMO

Originally posted by The Pict
I love Juggernaut. He's the man. But he's more about durability, not strength IMO.

He is the exemplar of physical power.. and able to overpower WWH

I would say Apocalypse is more dangerous than Sinister.

Either way no one has yet come up with how they counter beings as fast as Kryptonians.

Originally posted by Warlord
Agreed depowered Juggernaut is a shadow...however before that he was able to matcch WWHulk in strength which is > Power Girl IMO

Timeline mixed up? Juggy isn't depowered now.

I would say that Juggernaut actually bested rather than matched WWH. But I think that was due to his unstoppable movement powers.

sorry but I don't see speed being such a major factor.
It would be if they could one shot KO them but IMO they won't

Originally posted by Warlord
sorry but I don't see speed being such a major factor.
It would be if they could one shot KO them but IMO they won't

They will lands scores of blows in seconds.

Originally posted by The Pict
I would say Apocalypse is more dangerous than Sinister.

Either way no one has yet come up with how they counter beings as fast as Kryptonians.

Teleporting, malleability, intangability, force fields, super fast reflexes (Apoc at least has this), tk bubbles...

They might get blitzed at first but they recover and can keep playing the defensive game easily enough for Sinister to mindf**k them.

And there still is no proof that they can. Kara has strong defenses with telepathy. One of the perks with training with Granny.

ot would work but IMO they will blitz them with one punch as they usually do. not to mention that the mutants brain works much faster than a normal human. I say they have time to form a mindblast attack. If they supergirls survive this they might try the "scores of blows to KO" thing

Again, when has Sinister reacted as fast as someone like Supergirl?

on the same note, when has she KOed someone as tough as Sinister with just a blitz attack?

She doesn't need to KO Sinister. She can use her heat vision or freeze breath. He won't be getting out of that.

Or she can punt him to the moon. Take your pick.

Also, she disposed of BRIMSTONE in Teen Titans, IIRC.

Brimstone> Sinister.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
She doesn't need to KO Sinister. She can use her heat vision or freeze breath. He won't be getting out of that.

Or she can punt him to the moon. Take your pick.

nice...

HV won't harm him....
Freezing breath won't stop his mind from working and thus mind blast him. As for taking him to the moon - then we will having the same fight in the moon...cool

Originally posted by Warlord
nice...

HV won't harm him....
Freezing breath won't stop his mind from working and thus mind blast him. As for taking him to the moon - then we will having the same fight in the moon...cool

When has Sinister gotten out of a absolute zero brain freeze? Her super breath is strong enough to destroy small stars and you think Sinister will be walking afterwards?!

he will just be encased in ice...no physical hurt...otherwise iceman would have been the answer for sinister a long time ago...he isn't

absolute zero=everything stops moving.

absolute zero for externa body =/= absolute zero for brain