China attack in 2012?
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/nervous-china-may-attack-india-by-2012-defence-expert/488349/
Without saying I think it will happen or it won't happen what do you guys think of this?
China attack in 2012?
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/nervous-china-may-attack-india-by-2012-defence-expert/488349/
Without saying I think it will happen or it won't happen what do you guys think of this?
ahhh china attacking india. and then usa and half the world react triggering world war 3. maybe
but listen to this
China has been incubating for hundreds of years being prepared for its role as a key player in these times we are now experiencing. I was told by an insider many years ago to watch for the emergence of China as an economic and military power because then the action would really start.
Well, here we are.
China's 'economic miracle', based on slave labour that undercuts production costs across the world, has produced a mountain of money which has been used to buy foreign debt. It holds in excess of one trillion dollars worth of US Treasury bonds (debt) and debt of the US government mortgage lenders, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, recently saved from collapse by political intervention.But even this trillion dollars doesn't nearly tell the full story because it doesn't include Chinese investment in private US corporations and the use by the Chinese government of third parties to hide the extent of its holdings.
Put it all together and China is gaining ever more control of the US economy and it can use this power to destroy what is left of the American financial system. If it sells its massive dollar holdings the value of the 'mighty dollar' will plummet and if its debt is not repaid it can claim American assets, yes government assets, just as a bank forecloses on your house if you don't make the payments.
And the United States is now ten trillion dollars in debt with more being added by the minute. The 'superpower' is essentially bankrupt and at the mercy of its overseas creditors - especially China.
Given that the plan is for a war involving North America, Europe, Russia and China this takes on even greater significance, as does the involvement in the trillion-dollar (open chequebook) 'bail out' of US Treasury Secretary Henry 'Hank' Paulson. Who is picking up that debt?
not to mention that these hundreds of years of "incubation" would more correctly be described as hundreds of years of intense and violent political struggle, followed by insane rates of industrialization which caused such destabalization of traditional economies that millions of people died in the transition.
In other words, totally incubating and plotting the downfall of the west the entire time
the article is actually about China attacking India
I was thinking of doing a proper reply to the thesis presented in it, but the short and curleys are: the article was written by an Indian nationalist in a paper with ties to the BJP (nationalist indian political party, very successful [I think they are currently in power]) about how a china - pakistan alliance is going to invade "pasifist India" in the next few years, ostensibly such that China would no longer have internal conflict if its people were at war with India (a notion that really needs no rebuke)
EDIT: but no, China and America are too intertwined economically to ever go to outright war. Obama was in China recently and had to tip-toe around even copyright issues, not because he didn't want to offend the Chinese gvt (he did lambast them for not having certain political freedoms), but because the people who control the business interests in China are equally powerful in the American economy, and vica versa.
Also, MAD. And the chinese military, for as large as it is, is nearly immobile.
There are Maoist rebels in NE India that are likely supported by China in some way, but no, an outright invasion is, imho, not going to happen.
The way the article still considers Pakistan a proxy of China, and not America, is strange. Also, if China were to go to war for resources, Central Asia (the ---stans) is a much more likely target, and even then, china has been on a diplomatic kick in Africa and central asia ensuring these resources by propping up local regiemes.
China's need for oil is going to multiple by 100's times over, they're investing billions in building roads and highways throughout mainland, stands to reason they intend to have cars instead of bicycles on them.
Funny thing I read years ago in a car-mag, they purchased the right to build circa 1990's Jeep Cherokees for distribution in their home market.
Indo-Sino relations, not war specifically, but an interesting perspective
Originally posted by Robtard
China needs the US to do well as much as the US needs China. China attacking, is the equivalent of burning their own wallets; we know how Chinese feel about money. Sure, they're undermine the US if it serves their needs, but a war? No.
I don't know, I think China could sustain themselves without US backing them, the entire Eastern economy is practically wrapped around their fingers. Not to mention the industrial power house they are.
I agree though, I don't see any invasions happening. Maybe some conflict here and there like what was seen in Korea but nothing as extreme as an invasion.