Originally posted by amnesiacome on man you cant let the movies ruin the comic characters. thats like saying batman will never be clean because clooney touched him. deadpool sucked in the movie as well as juggernaut and many others but that doesnt mean they suck in the comics ?
As stated before i hate daredevil. He will never be clean, not after Affleck and Bendis touched him.
Originally posted by chomperx9
come on man you cant let the movies ruin the comic characters. thats like saying batman will never be clean because clooney touched him. deadpool sucked in the movie as well as juggernaut and many others but that doesnt mean they suck in the comics ?
I like Reynolds and Clooney. I don't like Elektra or kingpin either. Only good thing about marvel street levelers is bullseye.
Originally posted by Darth Martin"Batman 5-5.5/10"... lulz. that's such a cop-out answer. nothing wrong with Batman losing, he can't win all the time and he's at a huge disadvantage in this fight. With his gadgets though, Batman probably wins 7/10.
I'm convinced Batman is the more skilled martial artist and tactitian. But Daredevil is faster and more agile. His supersenses will give him an edge, no doubt. Batman's suit will also give him a fair amount of protection, atleast more than Daredevil's suit.Batman 5-5.5/10
He's faced a variety of people with more pure martial arts skill than the ones Daredevil has faced. He's displayed chi-amping ability and that I haven't seen yet from Daredevil(correct me if I'm wrong). Daredevil has pwned huge groups of canon fodder time and time again. That's impressive but Batman has held his own against Deathstroke, Shiva, Cassandra, Karate Kid, Ted Grant, Wonder Woman, Dinah Lance, etc. His showings aren't good against Richard Dragon and I'm not sure if he's faced Connor or not. But, you get the point?
Daredevil knows pressure points. That's great, so does Batman. Daredevil has an extensive view of the body and it's weak points, so does Batman and without any multiple super senses.
Batman's training and overall martial arts knowledge seems to be alot more vast and extensive than Daredevil's own(correct me if I'm wrong). He knows alot more styles.
IMO, this is almost the same as him fighting Steve Rogers. Only, you swap 30-40 so pounds and a SSS with super senses.
Daredevil is amazing, don't get me wrong. But so is Batman, perhaps even moreso.
Also, you can't sit there and deny the edge his suit gives him. He's exploded buildings while still in them, walked out completely unphased, taken shots form Green Lantern rings, JLA-tier super-powered beings, and bullets. The thing is a piece of armor.
Each character has edges that are so small over the other it hardly seems to matter. Batman, like it or not, just owns most of the edges here.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
He's faced a variety of people with more pure martial arts skill than the ones Daredevil has faced. He's displayed chi-amping ability and that I haven't seen yet from Daredevil(correct me if I'm wrong). Daredevil has pwned huge groups of canon fodder time and time again. That's impressive but Batman has held his own against Deathstroke, Shiva, Cassandra, Karate Kid, Ted Grant, Wonder Woman, Dinah Lance, etc. His showings aren't good against Richard Dragon and I'm not sure if he's faced Connor or not. But, you get the point?Daredevil knows pressure points. That's great, so does Batman. Daredevil has an extensive view of the body and it's weak points, so does Batman and without any multiple super senses.
Batman's training and overall martial arts knowledge seems to be alot more vast and extensive than Daredevil's own(correct me if I'm wrong). He knows alot more styles.
IMO, this is almost the same as him fighting Steve Rogers. Only, you swap 30-40 so pounds and a SSS with super senses.
Daredevil is amazing, don't get me wrong. But so is Batman, perhaps even moreso.
Also, you can't sit there and deny the edge his suit gives him. He's exploded buildings while still in them, walked out completely unphased, taken shots form Green Lantern rings, JLA-tier super-powered beings, and bullets. The thing is a piece of armor.
Each character has edges that are so small over the other it hardly seems to matter. Batman, like it or not, just owns most of the edges here.
I think the spirit of the no gadgets rule implies that Batman is fighting without his standard armored suit... but maybe I'm wrong.
Anyway. Aside from the suit, every advantage you've credited Batman with applies to Daredevil just as easy as long as you do some name swapping.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I think the spirit of the no gadgets rule implies that Batman is fighting without his standard armored suit... but maybe I'm wrong.Anyway. Aside from the suit, every advantage you've credited Batman with applies to Daredevil just as easy as long as you do some name swapping.
The suit part doesn't make sense. It's not a primary weapon and all of the suits fail-safe devices would rendered useless and non-functional for the match.
Your going to have to walk me through the second part, I misunderstand.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
The suit part doesn't make sense. It's not a primary weapon and all of the suits fail-safe devices would rendered useless and non-functional for the match.
you thought it would be fair to have 2 opponents who are pretty darn equal..and then give 1 of them a very well armoured suit?
Lolwut.
No gadgets = no armor in my book. otherwise, you gotta give DD something to get through the armor with - which the OP hasnt, so thy get equal clothing, say a suit like DD's since it's pretty armorless.
And DD wins.
Bats wins if he keeps his armor.
Bats wins with gadgets.