Originally posted by Omega VisionIt was 30 minutes for a couple times around the world iirc.
I recall Gotenks' flying across the world in a matter of seconds (all the way in the Buu saga when their powers were coming close to Maximum, I don't care about GT) being considered some uber speed feat that shocked Piccolo. Considering that Thor flew to the sun in Siege presumably within a matter of minutes or at most hours I'd say Thor is as fast or faster.
Ask Endless Mike, he knows for sure.
The reason why speed and speed alone doesn't mean that Thor is screwed is because of Thor's own speed and reaction times, the ability to spin Mjolnir at speeds greater than light, the ability to omniblast, forcefields, etc. He literally is catered to fight DBZ characters and win for the purposes of these cross over fights. Their main draws are their massive energy attacks, attacks Thor can absorb/redirect back at them or even tank if he needed to. Their stamina is also suspect here as Thor can fight without tapping into his own energy and let the environment or even his opponent provide that energy.
Cell's only real shot here is his ability to regen, and even then, Thor can just blast him into the Sun or completely destroy him with his power output.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The reason why speed and speed alone doesn't mean that Thor is screwed is because of Thor's own speed and reaction times, the ability to spin Mjolnir at speeds greater than light, the ability to omniblast, forcefields, etc. He literally is catered to fight DBZ characters and win for the purposes of these cross over fights. Their main draws are their massive energy attacks, attacks Thor can absorb/redirect back at them or even tank if he needed to. Their stamina is also suspect here as Thor can fight without tapping into his own energy and let the environment or even his opponent provide that energy.Cell's only real shot here is his ability to regen, and even then, Thor can just blast him into the Sun or completely destroy him with his power output.
How does spinning his hammer FTL help him react to Cell's speedblitz? Super Perfect Cell was even more powerful than Ultimate Super Saiyan Jin 2 Gohan who was more powerful than Full Power SSJ Goku who could easily kill a planet buster with one punch.
Originally posted by TheTyrant
How does spinning his hammer FTL help him react to Cell's speedblitz? Super Perfect Cell was even more powerful than Ultimate Super Saiyan Jin 2 Gohan who was more powerful than Full Power SSJ Goku who could easily kill a planet buster with one punch.
ABC Logic much?
And Thor spinning his hammer FTL, means he can spin in it a defensive arc or erect a force field or tag someone who decides to attempt to breach through his defenses.
Seriously, all I'm hearing is "Random DBZ character is faster and stronger" than Thor with no real proof one way or the other. Meanwhile, people siding with Thor are literally telling you how and why Thor wins.
What, does Thor need to ascend to Super Asgardian here or something?
Originally posted by TheTyrantSS2 Gohan was weakened, he was not a full power.
How does spinning his hammer FTL help him react to Cell's speedblitz? Super Perfect Cell was even more powerful than Ultimate Super Saiyan Jin 2 Gohan who was more powerful than Full Power SSJ Goku who could easily kill a planet buster with one punch.
What planet buster did Goku kill with a punch?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
ABC Logic much?And Thor spinning his hammer FTL, means he can spin in it a defensive arc or erect a force field or tag someone who decides to attempt to breach through his defenses.
Seriously, all I'm hearing is "Random DBZ character is faster and stronger" than Thor with no real proof one way or the other. Meanwhile, people siding with Thor are literally telling you how and why Thor wins.
What, does Thor need to ascend to Super Asgardian here or something?
That's because DBZ is an anime that relied on powerscalling. Without power scaling, ABC logic, and fillers, there are barely any feats for characters other than Gohan and Goku.
Originally posted by TheTyrant
That's because DBZ is an anime that relied on powerscalling. Without power scaling, ABC logic, and fillers, there are barely any feats for characters other than Gohan and Goku.
Ok.
And I'm telling you, being superfast (highly debatable they're faster than what Thor can react to based on Thor's feats) and superstrong on its own isn't enough to beat Thor. And by ABC logic, Thor has gotten the upper hand on Silver Surfer, who is beyond virtually everything in DBZ no contest.
Do you guys understand the monumental leaps in speed, strength and power of the Dragonball characters?
Freeza in his weakest form effortlessly blew up Planet Vegeta. Pre-SSJ Vegeta was able to match that weakest form Freeza on-panel.
Weakest form Freeza was outclassed speed, strength and power-wise by bulky-form Freeza.
Bulky-form Freeza was outclassed speed, strength and power-wise by monster-form Freeza one further level.
Monster-form Freeza was outclassed speed, strength and power-wise by perfect-form Freeza one further level.
Perfect-form Freeza was outclassed speed, strength and power-wise by cyborg-form Freeza one further level.
Cyborg-form Freeza was utterly outclassed speed, strength and power-wise by normal SSJ-level Trunks.
Normal SSJ-level Trunks was utterly outclassed by post-training Super Trunks.
Super Trunks was utterly outclassed by perfect-form Cell.
You're talking more than a half dozen leaps in speed, strength and power from a legitimate planet-buster.