Originally posted by Red Nemesis
I think that Slash, especially, would resent the implication that I am being anything less than sincere. Anyway, Revan is clearly an incredibly powerful combatant: his holocron about philosophy had Bane shivering in his wee little booties.
Sincerity is just a tool, insincerity is a weapon.
Revan is probably the Sith Emperor's decendant. Hence, he is better than anyone, except the Sith Emperor. Also, he has pretty, long, hair. He could wear a nice diadem.
Originally posted by bayhunter12 Dooku all the way.
Originally posted by truejedi Dooku.
Seriously! Revan was no joke in combat.
First we shall have a look at Revan's skills with the lightsaber: He likely knew shien (courtesy SWTOR) and Makashi does not works well against Form IV.
And people wanted a glimpse of Revan's dueling. Well here is one:
As you can see in the image; Revan is fighting 4 Sith individuals simultaneously and one has already been hit. The lightsaber was swung so fast that the lack of reaction from others shows a blink of an eye like speed or probably even better. The final outcome seems obvious: All of those enemies were likely slaughtered by Revan singlehandedly.
So while you guys can argue that Dooku also was also great with a Lightsaber (I do not deny this) but Revan was declared a Prodigy after his feats in the "Battle of Rakata Prime." So Dooku is facing a challenging lightsaber duelist.
Now! As far as "strong in the force" statement is concerned; Dooku was indeed strong in the force but Sidious wanted a stronger apprentice than Dooku to do his bidding.
However, Revan vastly impressed other famous Dark Lords from different times who got the chance to gauge his potential:-
Darth Traya and Darth Malak from his time
Darth Bane from future
One Dark Lord of the Sith from ancient times
Even if others are not convincing enough - The general opinion is that Darth Bane > Count Dooku and if he was impressed by Revan than this surely indicates something.
Star Wars Compaign Guide also provides a list of powers employed by Revan and some of them were never demonstrated by Dooku. Leeland Chee considers such information valid.
I believe that I have provided a brief but reasonable snapshot of Revan so people should evaluate him more fairly.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
And people wanted a glimpse of Revan's dueling. Well here is one:As you can see in the image; Revan is fighting 4 Sith individuals simultaneously and one has already been hit. The lightsaber was swung so fast that the lack of reaction from others shows a blink of an eye like speed or probably even better. The final outcome seems obvious: All of those enemies were likely slaughtered by Revan singlehandedly.
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I am amazed.
I don't really care whether Revan is more powerful than Dooku or not, even though my opinion is that he probably is - and might've possessed a lot of Force knowledge that Dooku doesn't have - because it's kind of irrelevant. We know that Dooku was a nearly unparalleled swordsman, whereas there is no credible evidence to suggest that Revan was. Dooku wins the majority on the strength of his lightsaber skills alone.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Revan is just so tied up in speculation. Although I think he's more powerful than Dooku, its really difficult to substantiate.
I second this.
Plus, he was designed to be customizable in the game. Is he an uber-saber user like Kas'im? A force monkey? A mix? We don't know, no other sources have covered this.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
If you have different perspective in mind that please provide it.However, a picture is worth a thousand words.
Fine, there are three unknown troopers and one unknown Force user. He apparently fatally wounds one of the troopers. You can't say anything conclusive about his speed judging from a picture. It is unknown whether he is alone or not, maybe he has back up right behind him.
Also, everything that is told in the holorecords is open for discussion because there are quite some events mentioned in the holorecord that directly contradict established canon. This may be because these are records from 300 years after the events occured.