Cross-Genre Match #1: Vegeta vs Thor

Originally posted by Black bolt z
-I doubt far superior.Vegeta would have to have insane durability too.To live after what he has been through.Although he has died before 🙁 ...but that was a suicide.
-True.But will he always absorb every hit or be stupid and try to tank it?
-Yes.If he absorbs them.
-What has his force fields blocked?Whats his best FF feat?
-True.But I believe he has been hit by lightning before.Majin buu has maniuplated environment before and it didn't seem to help.
-Auto hit?Explain how vegeta cannot dodge/instant transmission away.
-I never remember sayians not being able to breath in space.They just use starships because they are faster.Please provide a video/scan of them dying or saying they will die in space.
-Vegeta can BFR him too.He can also come back.He's fast enough
-He is more versitile but not that far more versitile.

Please do.

Goku said he couldn't breathe in space.

Maijin Buu didn't use weather for any attacks, I don't even remember him doing anything with the weather besides maybe raising his ki, which every z fighter has done, they don't have any control over the environment, though.

Vegeta is going to bfr him how?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
-I doubt far superior.Vegeta would have to have insane durability too.To live after what he has been through.Although he has died before 🙁 ...but that was a suicide.
-True.But will he always absorb every hit or be stupid and try to tank it?
-Yes.If he absorbs them.
-What has his force fields blocked?Whats his best FF feat?
-True.But I believe he has been hit by lightning before.Majin buu has maniuplated environment before and it didn't seem to help.
-Auto hit?Explain how vegeta cannot dodge/instant transmission away.
-I never remember sayians not being able to breath in space.They just use starships because they are faster.Please provide a video/scan of them dying or saying they will die in space.
-Vegeta can BFR him too.He can also come back.He's fast enough
-He is more versitile but not that far more versitile.

Please do.

- First of all stamina=/=durability. Second of all, I doubt Vegeta has the endurance feats to top Thor's.
- No reason he won't when he sees that Vegeta's primary offensive output is energy based.
- Contained a blast that would have annihilated 1/5th of the Marvel Universe.
- Elaborate. When has Buu manipulated the environment and the elements in such a way that Thor can to hinder Vegeta? Thor can create cosmic storms etc. that wouldn't be any cake walk for Vegeta.
- Since when did Vegeta have instant transmission? And yes Vegeta won't be able to dodge. Mjolnir is far, far, far faster than light itself
- Vegeta and other Saiyans cannot breath in space.
- Lmao at battle field removing Thor. Thor can send him into some barren dimension. If Thor decides to battle field remove him, Vegeta won't be coming back.
- He is far more versatile. Nothing to debate.

what do you mean by "Vegeta can teleport"?

People keep saying Vegeta can Shatter Mountains... like Thor can't do the same. Plus, Thor's resistance to injury dwarfs Vegtas.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Vegeta>base hulk in strength.A lot of people are stronger then base hulk but savage hulk is easily above vegeta.

Like i said...

Hulk > Vegeta... in terms of Strength.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Mjolnir is far, far, far faster than light itself

Originally posted by Black bolt z
-I doubt far superior.Vegeta would have to have insane durability too.To live after what he has been through.Although he has died before 🙁 ...but that was a suicide.
-True.But will he always absorb every hit or be stupid and try to tank it?
-Yes.If he absorbs them.
-What has his force fields blocked?Whats his best FF feat?
-True.But I believe he has been hit by lightning before.Majin buu has maniuplated environment before and it didn't seem to help.
-Auto hit?Explain how vegeta cannot dodge/instant transmission away.
-I never remember sayians not being able to breath in space.They just use starships because they are faster.Please provide a video/scan of them dying or saying they will die in space.
-Vegeta can BFR him too.He can also come back.He's fast enough
-He is more versitile but not that far more versitile.

Please do.

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-Yes, far superior. Thor battled Zeus for like 6 straight months. What's the longest Vegeta ever stayed in prolonged combat with another being without rest? The Hyperbolic Time Chamber? No, because Trunks and Vegeta rested in between bouts. Also, every ki blast Vegeta throws comes from his own energy reserves. He WILL get tired before long, that much is fact and indisputable if you look at DBZ's entire history. Thor, on the other hand, doesn't have to tap into his own energies to fire energy attacks and the like. He can outlast Vegeta here.

-Why wouldn't he try to avoid taking as much damage as possible? There's no PIS here, and even with CIS, Thor's defenses with Mjolnir are insane. Again, Thor can outlast Vegeta by far.

-He will based on what he has absorbed. Once again, Vegeta's going to be burning himself out using his most powerful attacks, wheras Thor can just use Mjolnir to drain Vegeta. Mjolnir phucks up most DBZ character's fighting strategies (ie. power up to maximum and shoot a big blast of energy)

-Null Bomb. Nuff said.

-Thor's weather manipulation is enough to hinder the Hulk with rain alone. Vegeta, at the very least, will be affected adversely on some level. Thor sets the pace of this match.

-Because Vegeta can't Instant Transmission, that's why. Mjolnir doesn't tire or lose energy. Vegeta does.

-Because Frieza stated he could survive in space and Goku couldn't. Considering his history with Saiyans, I'm inclined to agree with him. Goku has also almost drowned before, so yes, I'm pretty sure they all have to breathe.

-Proof that Vegeta can dump Thor in an alternate dimension/blast him to the Sun?

-Yes, Thor is FAR more versatile. Vegeta can punch, kick, fly, move fast, and use energy blasts. Thor can do so much more it's not even funny.

Originally posted by Starscream M
proof?

The speed at which it returns to Thor's hand varies but it's been able to return to Thor from the edge of the Galaxy in seconds which would indicate it moved at a speed billions of times faster than light.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Mjolnir6.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/Mjolnir125.jpg

I think these points are settled:

- thor is more durable

- thor has more stamina

- vegeta is faster

- vegeta is more skilled

Where is the evidence that supports this notion that "Saiyan's don't need to breathe"?

Originally posted by marwash22
Where is the evidence that supports this notion that "Saiyan's don't need to breathe"?

Because the battle may end up in space?

Originally posted by Mindset
Vegeta doesn't know instant transmission.

Goku said he couldn't breathe in space.

Maijin Buu didn't use weather for any attacks, I don't even remember him doing anything with the weather besides maybe raising his ki, which every z fighter has done, they don't have any control over the environment, though.

Vegeta is going to bfr him how?

Scans/video please.

No but he was still able to make the weather go crazy.Thor could use it more to his advantage but what is lightning to someone who can take planet busting hits?

If thor can BFR him why can't he BFR thor?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
- First of all stamina=/=durability. Second of all, I doubt Vegeta has the endurance feats to top Thor's.
- No reason he won't when he sees that Vegeta's primary offensive output is energy based.
- Contained a blast that would have annihilated 1/5th of the Marvel Universe.
- Elaborate. When has Buu manipulated the environment and the elements in such a way that Thor can to hinder Vegeta? Thor can create cosmic storms etc. that wouldn't be any cake walk for Vegeta.
- Since when did Vegeta have instant transmission? And yes Vegeta won't be able to dodge. Mjolnir is far, far, far faster than light itself
- Vegeta and other Saiyans cannot breath in space.
- Lmao at battle field removing Thor. Thor can send him into some barren dimension. If Thor decides to battle field remove him, Vegeta won't be coming back.
- He is far more versatile. Nothing to debate.

Originally posted by marwash22
Where is the evidence that supports this notion that "Saiyan's don't need to breathe"?

Galactusischere and I already said this. Goku went to the moon in DB part one. In the manga.

Evidence has it that saiyans can breathe in space, but not for too long.

Seriously, Thor's advantages over Vegeta are far greater than vice versa. And speed wise, nothing Vegeta himself has done leads me to believe that he can use his speed to defeat Thor like some imply. Vegeta is a better martial artist. That's about it.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I think these points are settled:

- thor is more durable

- thor has more stamina

- vegeta is faster

- vegeta is more skilled

Durability... Thor. by a lot.

Stamina... Thor. by a lot

Speed... Vegeta. Moot point as Thor can both track superspeed movement and react to them, not to mention, Vegeta can't hurt Thor... something you just admitted to by agreeing that Thor has far better Durability.

Fighting Skill... Vegeta. Irrelevant... see, Speed for reasoning.

This thread is hilarious. But can anybody think of something more hilarious than if we pitted Krillin against Wolverine in a fight?

What? vegeta hs fought on par with Goku who could easily blitz Frieza who was atleast hypersonic in combat himself.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Galactusischere and I already said this. Goku went to the moon in DB part one. In the manga.

Evidence has it that saiyans can breathe in space, but not for too long.

Originally posted by marwash22
you're contradicting yourself. Either he can breathe in space or he can't... which is it?

He can but not for too long. I know it doesn't make sense, but it's not supposed to make sense. See 'multi-verse' and 'omniverse' for example.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
-Okay i'll go with thor has higher stamina then vegeta.Taking hits from cell and majin buu?Who can easily bust planets.
-True.But will he always absorb every hit or be stupid and try to tank it?
-and this was where?Please tell/post scans.And are you sure thats not a hyperbole?
-True but vegeta can tank planet busting attacks.What is lightning to him?
-Since when doesn't he?I always remember him having them.
-Scans/video please.
-If he dimension BFR's him yes he won't be coming back.Wait...he has come back form other dimensions.He just can't come back in a short amoutn of time.
-Okay.I'll give you that.

-Okay.
- He'd more than likely just tank his attacks for a while until he resorts to energy absorption. I doubt he'd do it out the bat. Too many instances of Thor tanking attacks.
- Not it was not hyperbole. A life bomb actually destroyed 1/5 of the Universe.

Thor whips out a vortex that contains a Life Bomb which is powerful enough to destroy 1/5th of the Universe.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ContainsLife-Bomb1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ContainsLife-Bomb2.jpg