Cross-Genre Match #1: Vegeta vs Thor

Originally posted by Mindset
Carver, I know more about DBZ manga and anime than you do, come on, I understand. He was able to lift a 100 ton tree in the first ep, but later had to go SS to lift 40 ton weights. They're both lifting feats, he is using his strength in the same fashion as when he lifted the tree. There is an inconsistency.

The tree feat is filler; prove Gohan feat isn't filler. Toriyama approving of the anime doesn't make its filler canon.

Originally posted by Starscream M
there is far more inconsistency in comics than in dbz

Originally posted by Mindset
Carver, I know more about DBZ manga and anime than you do, come on, I understand. He was able to lift a 100 ton tree in the first ep, but later had to go SS to lift 40 ton weights. They're both lifting feats, he is using his strength in the same fashion as when he lifted the tree. There is an inconsistency.

The tree feat is filler; prove Gohan feat isn't filler. Toriyama approving of the anime doesn't make its filler canon.

What was the Gravity on that Ki planet because since we know it was a training ground for some of the greatest fighters in the universe, the gravity had to be intense. That 40 ton feat had to be much higher than that but I'm not going to argue with you about it because I already know your next response. Goku as a child moved much more than 40 tons so I know his black hair form is so much more stronger.

By the way, you dont know more about DBZ than I do. I agree with you to some degree, Dragonball can be inconsistent sometimes.

Originally posted by carver9
What was the Gravity on that Ki planet because since we know it was a training ground for some of the greatest fighters in the universe, the gravity had to be intense. That 40 ton feat had to be much higher than that but I'm not going to argue with you about it because I already know your next response. Goku as a child moved much more than 40 tons so I know his black hair form is so much more stronger.

By the way, you dont know more about DBZ than I do. I agree with you to some degree, Dragonball can be inconsistent sometimes.

No, I do.

Originally posted by Mindset
Iirc there was no mention of gravity, he lifted 40 tons. Even if the gravity was 1000x times Earth gravity, he still only lifted 40 tons. No, you're not going to argue it because there's nothing to argue. What was the 40 ton feat he had as a kid?

No, I do.

I'm not arguing against it because it happened but again that discredit everything that happened in DBZ. The 60 ton rock that he moved when Roshi told him that he was going to make him strong enough to move that boulder and Goku proved to Roshi that he was already strong enough and he moved it with ease and Roshi dropped his mouth. I will try to find the scan for you, its on his respect thread.

I promise you that you dont know CLOSE to what I know about DBZ. I have seen EVERY episode of DBZ at least 10 times and I have read the manga even more. That is the main reason I am voting against Thor along with other due to my DBZ knowledge. 😄

Originally posted by carver9
I promise you that you dont know CLOSE to what I know about DBZ. I have seen EVERY episode of DBZ at least 10 times and I have read the manga even more. That is the main reason I am voting against Thor along with other due to my DBZ knowledge. 😄

Originally posted by carver9
I'm not arguing against it because it happened but again that discredit everything that happened in DBZ. The 60 ton rock that he moved when Roshi told him that he was going to make him strong enough to move that boulder and Goku proved to Roshi that he was already strong enough and he moved it with ease and Roshi dropped his mouth. I will try to find the scan for you, its on his respect thread.

I promise you that you dont know CLOSE to what I know about DBZ. I have seen EVERY episode of DBZ at least 10 times and I have read the manga even more. That is the main reason I am voting against Thor along with other due to my DBZ knowledge. 😄

Originally posted by carver9
Then we have Gohun sitting in class worried about Videl, moving his feet up and down creating a city wide level earth quake. That feat alone puts him in the billions of ton range.

your hard on for the dragon ball cartoon is the reason this stuff should be separate from the comics versus thread.

read the manga please

Originally posted by Parmaniac
That reminds me of "I know more about Superman than anyone else" 😆

Well I was talking out of my a** when I said that but I think I know more about Superman than numerous of people on this board and I have proven that by talking about comics and present scans before anyone on the board mentioned or showed it. Just because I dont think Superman can beat EVERYONE doesnt mean I dont read him. I also know everything there is to know about Gladiator but I dont think he can beat everyone.

I can name at least 6 people on here that know more about Superman than I do (even though I THINK I could possibly know more). When it comes to DBZ, no one on here knows more and thats a promise (you dont have to reply to this post, I really dont want you too.)

try to keep the feats you use from the anime consistent with the manga please 🙂

Originally posted by carver9
When it comes to DBZ, no one on here knows more and thats a promise (you dont have to reply to this post, I really dont want you too.)

How can you possibly prove something like this, much less promise it to be true?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
great saiyaman saga is non-canon

your hard on for the dragon ball cartoon is the reason this stuff should be separate from the comics versus thread.

read the manga please

I read the manga and if you actually read the manga, you wouldnt have made that comment you made about the instant transmission being= to light when that was never stated in the manga. The quote Goku saying "Me using this technique, I can travel 186000 mps", that was NEVER mentioned in the manga. It is INSTANT movement.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Galactusischere and I already said this. Goku went to the moon in DB part one. In the manga.

Evidence has it that saiyans can breathe in space, but not for too long.

That happen eariler in the seires when AT first made the manga. Later on in the series, it was mention that they can't live in Space for long.

Also not all of the movies are canon to the anime even they have the Z title in them. Look like Movie 3 and 4 for example where the Z fighters where still alive on Earth when most of them where already dead from Nappa.

Pretty sure Endless Mike knows more than anyone about DBZ on this site.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
How can you possibly prove something like this, much less promise it to be true?

Like I said, I have watched every episode of DBZ at least 10 times. I read each manga even more. That is how I am about comics, I read them more than twice.

Originally posted by Mindset
Pretty sure Endless Mike knows more than anyone about DBZ on this site.

No he doesnt.

Originally posted by carver9
No he doesnt.

Originally posted by carver9
Like I said, I have watched every episode of DBZ at least 10 times. I read each manga even more. That is how I am about comics, I read them more than twice.

And you doing all of this = you knowing more about DBZ than anyone on the site?

You don't see how that sounds?

scans of...anything?

Originally posted by Mindset
Lol, how would you know?

I debate against Mike almost daily. We have had our run ins. Last year was the day of hell with me and Mike. Mike is a very knowledgable person about almost ANY character but he use to much real world logic for his debates.