Originally posted by tssclsIt's inconsistent writing but he can gets caught off guard all the time. The guy turned tech on Tyrant when he has control over tech yet you say he has ca and nothing ever catches him off guard. Quit being ridiculous.
So Galactus has no cosmic awareness. According to you, cosmic awareness can be cancelled out by Reed Richards IQ? Is this the standrad you're prepared to live by?
JLA/Avengers garbage is only rivaled in horse shit by Marvel vs DC,
that, or Tom & Jerry newspaper skits.
In this ridiculous asinine story DC & Marvel share the same Multiverse. dur
Krona defeats some of the most powerful items in both Marvel & DC
with the power of two alternate universes, and DC's entropy. 😆
Krona needs 12 weapons to subdue entities that have been cracked by far less.
(the UN can erase Eternity's present existence and the IG can stomp and/or replace him)
If Kismet is supposed to be the equal to his fallacious alternate Eternity,
then she goes too, since those two items alone can get the job done.
Anyhow, Thanos conjures up Flash and Hawkeye for FTW. 🙂
Originally posted by Mr Master
JLA/Avengers garbage is only rivaled in horse shit by Marvel vs DC,
that, or Tom & Jerry newspaper skits.In this ridiculous asinine story DC & Marvel share the same Multiverse. dur
Krona defeats some of the most powerful items in both Marvel & DC
with the power of two alternate universes, and DC's entropy. 😆Krona needs 12 weapons to subdue entities that have been cracked by far less.
(the UN can erase Eternity's present existence and the IG can stomp and/or replace him)
If Kismet is supposed to be the equal to his fallacious alternate Eternity,
then she goes too, since those two items alone can get the job done.Anyhow, Thanos conjures up Flash and Hawkeye for FTW. 🙂
Originally posted by Mr Master
Krona defeats some of the most powerful items in both Marvel & DC
with the power of two alternate universes, and DC's entropy. 😆Krona needs 12 weapons to subdue entities that have been cracked by far less.
(the UN can erase Eternity's present existence and the IG can stomp and/or replace him)
If Kismet is supposed to be the equal to his fallacious alternate Eternity,
then she goes too, since those two items alone can get the job done.Anyhow, Thanos conjures up Flash and Hawkeye for FTW. 🙂
I thought JLA/Avengers was the definitive crossover. I didn't agree with some of the fight outcomes, like Thor having trouble with Firestorms containment field, but the story and epicness, along with nice little touches like making Metron and Grandmaster the real stars of the show, having Cap kick Prometheus's ass when he's using Batmans skills and his tricks, and giving us BATROC, make Marvel vs DC not even fit to wipe it's rear...
Anyways, as to the current argument: Just because Krona had all twelve weapons at his disposal, doesn't mean he "needed" to use all twelve to subdue them.
Also keep in mind, the IG would've been useless to subdue Kismet, seeing the gauntlet only affects 616 or the Marvel Multiverse.
Originally posted by cdtmThe gauntlet hasn't shown to be only able to affect 616.It has affected multiple universe.
I thought JLA/Avengers was the definitive crossover. I didn't agree with some of the fight outcomes, like Thor having trouble with Firestorms containment field, but the story and epicness, along with nice little touches like making Metron and Grandmaster the real stars of the show, having Cap kick Prometheus's ass when he's using Batmans skills and his tricks, and giving us BATROC, make Marvel vs DC not even fit to wipe it's rear...Anyways, as to the current argument: Just because Krona had all twelve weapons at his disposal, doesn't mean he "needed" to use all twelve to subdue them.
Also keep in mind, the IG would've been useless to subdue Kismet, seeing the gauntlet only affects 616 or the Marvel Multiverse.
However at the time of the crossover wasn't the IG deactivated?
Also I wonder if they will ever bring the gauntlet back.
And we don't know Krona only absorbed the power of two alternate universes. That's all we saw him absorb in the story, but we know he was operating for a long, long time since after he was banished from the DC universe, and before JLA/Avengers. There's really no way to determine how many universes he absorbed without being privy to his actions between the time he was banished, and the JLA/Avengers story.
Originally posted by cdtmBut does krona nto have IG,UN and other artifacts of the same power?How does thanos win to someone with his power + many many others.
And we don't know Krona only absorbed the power of two alternate universes. That's all we saw him absorb in the story, but we know he was operating for a long, long time since after he was banished from the DC universe, and before JLA/Avengers. There's really no way to determine how many universes he absorbed without being privy to his actions between the time he was banished, and the JLA/Avengers story.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
But does krona nto have IG,UN and other artifacts of the same power?How does thanos win to someone with his power + many many others.
He shouldn't.
If the powers didn't stack between at least a few of the items, Grandmaster wouldn't have bothered having the heroes gather them up. He could've made the entire contest about the IG, and one or two other items for Krona to use for subduing Kismet.
And even if it was only IG vs IG, I'd give the edge to the former Guardian with eons of experience using high level powers and studying even higher level powers.. Not to mention Guardian = will incarnate. So yeah, will vs will isn't in Thanos's favor here..
Originally posted by cdtmI thought JLA/Avengers was the definitive crossover. I didn't agree with some of the fight outcomes, like Thor having trouble with Firestorms containment field, but the story and epicness, along with nice little touches like making Metron and Grandmaster the real stars of the show, having Cap kick Prometheus's ass when he's using Batmans skills and his tricks, and giving us BATROC, make Marvel vs DC not even fit to wipe it's rear...
I could care less about the fan based outcomes.
Marvel and DC do NOT share the same Multiverse, or even Omniverse,
that right there drowns the story in fallacious vomit.
Originally posted by cdtmJust because Krona had all twelve weapons at his disposal, doesn't mean he "needed" to use all twelve to subdue them.
Originally posted by cdtmOk I know Krona is a uber beats but beating thanos in a test of wills?Thats a bit of a stretch.Even doom would have problems with that and might lose.
He shouldn't.If the powers didn't stack between at least a few of the items, Grandmaster wouldn't have bothered having the heroes gather them up. He could've made the entire contest about the IG, and one or two other items for Krona to use for subduing Kismet.
And even if it was only IG vs IG, I'd give the edge to the former Guardian with eons of experience using high level powers and studying even higher level powers.. Not to mention Guardian = will incarnate. So yeah, will vs will isn't in Thanos's favor here..
Originally posted by Mr Master
The cosmological aspect of the story was complete shitI could care less about the fan based outcomes.
Marvel and DC do NOT share the same Multiverse, or even Omniverse,
that right there drowns the story in fallacious vomit.Actually, if know the story, and on panel artwork,
he DID indeed use All 12 items to subdue that alternate Eternity and Kismet. (book 4)
I was also puzzled when they compared Kismet to Eternity but its not really that big of a deal.
Originally posted by cdtmAnd we don't know Krona only absorbed the power of two alternate universes. That's all we saw him absorb in the story, but we know he was operating for a long, long time since after he was banished from the DC universe, and before JLA/Avengers. There's really no way to determine how many universes he absorbed without being privy to his actions between the time he was banished, and the JLA/Avengers story.
Across the arc, at the beginning of every book it was confirmed that Krona destroyed/absorbed TWO Universes and nothing more, and now he was after his third and fourth,
(whatever DC Universe that housed those mainstream cats, and that alternate crap from Marvel)
I say "alternate" because Marvel has no spacial affiliation with DC.
So, whatever universe from Marvel was used, it was one that only exists in that story.
Originally posted by Mr Master
The cosmological aspect of the story was complete shitI could care less about the fan based outcomes.
Marvel and DC do NOT share the same Multiverse, or even Omniverse,
that right there drowns the story in fallacious vomit.
😕 If they can't co-exist somehow, they can't have a crossover.
Technically, you're correct, but if we don't suspend disbelief enough to allow a way for them to be in the same comic, that means a crossover isn't possible. They simply can't meet without some shoehorning..
Actually, if know the story, and on panel artwork,
he DID indeed use All 12 items to subdue that alternate Eternity and Kismet. (book 4)
He had all twelve items, and used all twelve items. That doesn't mean he NEEDED all twelve items.
Grandmaster collected them, Krona took them and used them. Would it make sense for him to discard the ones he didn't need, instead of going for broke?