Originally posted by Black bolt zNo. At. All.
IMO based on both overall feats odin is slightly higher.
Originally posted by galactusischereWrong, Galactus used the tech on him because he was losing already. BB didn't read it.
To be fair, the only reason that Tyrant defeated Galactus was because he could control his tech.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
The first part of your post was just you basically agreeing with me. I didn't say Thanos would now beat Odin. I stated a very clear and obvious on panel fact... Thanos stood against Odin and lasted awhile. Sure he wasn't winning nor knocked Odin down, but he did show he was able to stall Odin and take more than enough punishment for Tyrant to dispose of Void. Furthermore, his upgrades show that he could very well knock Odin around some, even if he doesn't win. So you basically agreed with me that he proved he could last with Odin. Cool.
He proves that he could last against Odin if Odin resorted to blast and no other abilities. Knock down? He didn't even move Odin in their with while he knocked Tyrant around when they fought. He could last if these two were paired up and Odin used out blasts. If he's paired with Void, he's going to be occupied taking out Void. Odin beats Tyrant and it's back to Odin Vs Thanos.
Tyrant couldn't one shot any heralds? Huh? he one shot surfer and proceeded to fight others. That is a one shot. Just because surfer got up eventually to get ONE shot again changes nothing. Brb got one-shotted. JOH did as well. Morg was dealt with easily. So your claim that he didn't one shot people is totally false.
He temporarily one-shots Surfer but he didn't stay down long at all. While Tyrant is occupied with the others, Surfer gets up and continues to fight again. His eyes couldn't take out Gladiator either.
Odin one-shotted Drax and Surfer. Both were down the entire fight. And Surfer was suppose to "fight" by Thanos' side. A poisoned Odin k.o.ed Ulik in a one-shot punch. A weakened Odin also one shotted Annihilus when Thor failed to beat him.
Re-read the story WWK... Thanos said if he stayed any longer he would've been killed. That speaks volumes about Tyrants power levels. Thanos never ever had such a fear with Odin and lasted much longer. Thanos knocking Tyrant around some proves he could now do the same to Odin. Just as the Galactus showing proved the same. Sure maybe he still would lose. I'm fine with that.. but he would inflict more damage this time. The point is.... going by Thanos words and actions... he clearly felt Tyrant was much more dangerous and actually left for fear of dying
He didn't fear Tyrant. He stood up to him as he had wanted. He never said anything about being killed. Tyrant tried and failed to do so and Thanos got the fight he wanted and left. The orb was his prize in that fight.
Thanos knocking Tyrant around shows how weaker Tyrant is compared to Odin. Unless he gained some kind of power up, the fight with Odin was in (1994 Feb) while his fight with Tyrant was (1994 August). It wasn't that far apart. How is Tyrant more powerful than Odin when Thanos knocked him around and yet failed to even move Odin?
To say nothing of the fact that Galactus was also very concerned above Tyrant and specifically fed and prepped before deciding to engage Tyrant, In fact, he backed down the first time they met and let Tyrant take Morg. These are all undisputable facts.
Except Tyrant had centuries more prep. And in direct combat without prep, he couldn't put down Thanos and was getting knocked around by him. He took several shots to take down Surfer and Gladiator. Odin did far better against Surfer and Thanos.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So tell me you two... how many times has he "wrecked" the cosmos? People love to preach about Odin and his high showings... So please back it up. This wasn't a low showing in the least for Odin. It wasn't a high one obviously. I would say about normal. Odin's words make it clear that he was putting forth effort which contradicts your... well he wasn't really trying and this was a low showing.
Wrecking the cosmos
- His fight with Seth, Egyption god of Death
- Against Forsung
- Against Infinity/his dark self tapping into the abstract Infinity
- He didn't wreck the cosmos against Surtur but Surtur did destroy the galaxy that belonged Beta Ray Bill's people to forge the Twilight Sword to kept Odin from accessing his full might during their fight.
One-shot k.o. top tiers
- Surfer (out for the entire fight)
- Drax
- Annihilus (while Odin was weak)
- Ulik (with just a punch while poisoned by Thanos' clone)
Beat
- Seth
- Beat down Hela easily
- While dead, he saved King Thor from Hela again
- Forsung, Leader of the Enchanters
- Led Asgard in defeating Zelia and the Dark Gods in their first meeting
*Broke through Thanos' force block, something that Thor with PG couldn't. The same Thor that fought Thanos to a near stand still.
His galaxy wrecking feats are still far more than what Tyrant or Thanos have displayed. Who's Thanos defeated that's comparable to Odin's wins? He beat Maker who was crazy. He knocked Galactus momentarily. He knocked Tyrant around but never won. That's pretty much Thanos' winning records. His true wins come from beating heralds and high end tiers. Odin one-shots even when weak. Tyrant hasn't done much comparable to Odin. Tyrant taps into Cosmic Power at best while Odin has tapped into Infinity.
His fight with Thanos was among his lower showing. He dragged Forsung across the cosmos and beat him. Against Thanos, he throw some meteors. LOL. Even Surfer can throw meteors around.
Originally posted by bbrem123
wait so ur saying that thanos can send galactus flying but not odin??kinda makes me think thanos wasnt really giving it his all in his fight with odin....seem he just wanted to prove he could take what odin could dish out...simliar to what he did with tyrant
Except that his fight with Tyrant and Odin were closer in time than with Galactus. His fight with Galactus came after The End which he gave himself a power up. Now with that powerup, he can knock Odin around, unlike their last encounter where he was the one getting knocked about. When your opponent knocks you about like a rag dog and you can even move him in the slightest, you're just a chump by that point. Just because Wolverine can get up after being knocked down by Thor, it doesn't mean Wolverine is close to Thor in power.