White Canary vs Elektra

pretty sure Deathstroke gives nightwing regular props on his fighting skill saying he is almost as good as bats if not better then him..

he has laughed at arsenal and told him only one that can give him a challenge is dick and whatnot...

dick is pretty skilled as well good enough to be top ten and above black canary seeing as he has single handedly faced off against cassie on top of a giant penny... and he has done better in certain h2h fighting then bats with the same opponent bruce has faced due to his style of fighting in which bats would have bn trounced..

dont you disrespect my Dick... you can talk trash about DS and bats all you want but you watch your mouth when it comes to my boy.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
elektra has used her speed to react to a bullet aimed at her heart

so she dodges bullets......

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
and has used illusion or TP to throw off her opponents in combat giving the blur fast movement effect when she was not moving and was attacking from a completely different direction hence a since of superspeed to compensate for her own speed and illusions would be a requirement

So she doesn't really have superspeed, just an extremely oscure power of hers aiding her in staging a mock-up of superspeed. How is this relevant? Are you saying one would need superspeed and powers of illusion to beat her?

sigh...facepalm2

http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/Speed/?action=view&current=Elektra_Speed_v2_03_09.jpg

go here and look and some of her speed feats..
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=502532&highlight=elektra+forumid%3A98

anyways...

^ Pfft. Batman did that to multiple bullets at once.

did you look at the 1st link at all? she is doing it with machine gun fire.

anyways white canary is getting raped by a sai in this match up

better showing for elektra she does it without a kevlar bat suit and she does it nonchalantly..

here let me help you.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
^ Pfft. Batman did that to multiple bullets at once.

Show me, and if he's wearing armor, GTFO

he is referring to the time batman ran into the perp with his arm up and the guy fired like three bullets which was blocked by his gauntlet it isnt close to the same as the elektra feat

Many street levelers block gunfire with their weapons, even nobody characters occasionally.

either one of the two combatants WC was simultaneously beating could engage Elektra alone......with BC actually giving her a pretty good fight IMO. White Canary FTW

edit:

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
he is referring to the time batman ran into the perp with his arm up and the guy fired like three bullets which was blocked by his gauntlet it isnt close to the same as the elektra feat

lol, interesting interpretation of that feat, and by interesting, I mean incorrect among other things.

When you see Elektra's hand up and a fired bullet, you assume should blocked it.

When you see Batman's hand up and several fired bullets, you assume the guy just fired into his hand.

personal preference, much?

so you dont see elektras telepathic powers being a remote issue with white canary cant win?

sigh..

mind rape ftw elektra for the onesided stomp win.

10/10

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
so you dont see elektras telepathic powers being a remote issue with white canary cant win?

sigh..

mind rape ftw elektra for the onesided stomp win.

10/10

okay..... maybe slightly more used,let's say his Electric eel power.

😬 seriously?

she uses her TP powers regularly except on main characters for story telling purposes far more then any of submariners other powers.

lets say she only uses each of her psi power of attacks once out of the 10 rounds how often do you think she win?

1 win for silent scream.
1 win fo illusion casting
1 win for mind raping/ mind control
1 win for mind reading precog
1 win for chi amping like durability.

i mean she has used her powers consistently and regularly to show off something new

again she still get the majority win lets say she is being generous and fights her instead of just mind rape or silent scream she still has variations of her powers that would apply and would be used in combat.

elektra high majority due to white canary still be obscure character with not enough feats 8/10 for elektra

Originally posted by Wild Shadow

dick is pretty skilled as well good enough to be top ten and above black canary seeing as he has single handedly faced off against cassie on top of a giant penny...

He fought Cassandra Cain on top of a giant penny? When'd that happen?

Dinah has sparred with Cass and scored hits (In BG's own book, thanks to BC's Shiva training).

Btw, both Cassandra and Dick were on her list of regular sparing partners.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
😬 seriously?

she uses her TP powers regularly except on main characters for story telling purposes far more then any of submariners other powers.

lets say she only uses each of her psi power of attacks once out of the 10 rounds how often do you think she win?

1 win for silent scream.
1 win fo illusion casting
1 win for mind raping/ mind control
1 win for mind reading precog
1 win for chi amping like durability.

i mean she has used her powers consistently and regularly to show off something new

again she still get the majority win lets say she is being generous and fights her instead of just mind rape or silent scream she still has variations of her powers that would apply and would be used in combat.

elektra high majority due to white canary still be obscure character with not enough feats 8/10 for elektra

that last statement is you're most sensible yet, but I was arguing based soley on her showing in Birds of Prey, which in no way support a high majority for Elektra.

Elektra's "powers" are inconsistent, point blank. Pretty much only ever used on cannon fodder. Where was her TP when bullseye was kicking her ass? what about the DD fights? etc, etc, etc

is your argument soley on old school elektra? b/c modern elektra would walk all over DD without the use of all her powers and she beat the snot out of BE/hawkeye after induring hours of torture and being injected with drugs to hamper her abilities..

only reason she bothered to take on BE was b/c she wanted to beat him purely h2h to get even with him killing her early in her career prior to all the upgrades and training she has now received and is acknowledged for possessing..

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
is your argument soley on old school elektra? b/c modern elektra would walk all over DD without the use of all her powers and she beat the snot out of BE/hawkeye after induring hours of torture and being injected with drugs to hamper her abilities..

only reason she bothered to take on BE was b/c she wanted to beat him purely h2h to get even with him killing her early in her career prior to all the upgrades and training she has now received and is acknowledged for possessing..

Never in fights with characters like DD, Bullseye, Taskmaster, etc....whether she wins or not, that's not the point I'm trying to make.

Most of Elektra's feats are of her owning cannon fodder and her own storyline related opponents. fact

i know what your argument is,,, it is PIS and you trying to justify it as being used here possibly trying to spin it into CIS which it is not

My argument is PIS? which I am trying to "spin into CIS"? What in tarnation are you talking about?

are you saying I'm calling something PIS and/or CIS? If not, you just totally lost me.

i am saying you are saying elektra wont use her powers b/c she rarely uses them on main characters but you admit she uses them on fodder. that my friend is the definition of PIS.

unless you want to claim it is her personality that keeps her from employing her full spectrum of powers on mainstream heroes and villains?

there is no reason why elektra would not fight to the best of her abilities in a forum fight

i really think we need a mod ruling here b/c some one needs a refresher on the rules

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i am saying you are saying elektra wont use her powers b/c she rarely uses them on main characters but you admit she uses them on fodder. that my friend is the definition of PIS.

unless you want to claim it is her personality that keeps her from employing her full spectrum of powers on mainstream heroes and villains?

there is no reason why elektra would not fight to the best of her abilities in a forum fight

i really think we need a mod ruling here b/c some one needs a refresher on the rules

She doesn't use her "powers" in fights with those characters because she's most often displayed without them. fact.

sigh.. modern elektra has had her powers displayed in the last 4 yrs..

we dont see bats or shiva regularly applying the vibrating palm technique but its a given that they can do it..

multiple fighters at once Elektra vs Taskmaster / Zaran / Fatale - Elektra owns all three in as many panels

http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view&current=Elektra_Fights_Elektra_v1_07_17.jpg

her bio power mention by h,a,m,m,e,r

http://s593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/elektrarespectthread/?action=view&current=DarkReignElektra0108.jpg

if your argument is that she rarely uses her powers in other ppl's titles, i suggest you start arguing against guys like flash as well for why he cant win or shouldnt win. elektra in her own series and mini's doesnt have that problem with not using her powers and her full potential.

you might also want to think why they dont let a world class psi assassin use said powers on the likes of DD, BE, captain america and other main stream hero/villian answer is b/c she kill them and unlike wolverine they cant regenerate and survive