Originally posted by lightyeargee
Did DD not attack DS when DS's back was turned? That is a Cheap Shot.
He didn't take a shot, he just grabbed DS from behind as that was the current state DS was at when he got up and even gave him enough time to retaliate.
Not DD's fault that DS decided to spend that time monologing about how no one can withstand the Omega Beams from point blank range... :-/
Originally posted by D_Dude1210Um, The very fact that DS had a monologue and DD being who he was that up until that point, hadn't been stopped even for seconds, was enough to show that Had DS actually used an erasing power, or teleporting power, he would have won. He chose an energy attack and got cheap shotted for it. DD came from behind him at Superspeed.
He didn't take a shot, he just grabbed DS from behind as that was the current state DS was at when he got up and even gave him enough time to retaliate.Not DD's fault that DS decided to spend that time monologing about how no one can withstand the Omega Beams from point blank range... :-/
Originally posted by lightyeargee
Um, The very fact that DS had a monologue and DD being who he was that up until that point, hadn't been stopped even for seconds, was enough to show that Had DS actually used an erasing power, or teleporting power, he would have won. He chose an energy attack and got cheap shotted for it. DD came from behind him at Superspeed.
Again with the "cheap shot".
It's not a low showing if someone doesn't behave according tho how you want them to. Just because DS didn't behave the way you wanted him to, doesn't make this showing any less valid.
From what I see, the attacks landed to the FRONT of DS's face. It is NOT a cheap shot for DD to grapple DS then knee him in the face before he blasts him with an energy attack. The same way it is not a cheap shot to close into someone then punch him in the face before he shoots you with a gun.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210DS back was turned. Cheap Shot. Name any other time in the series where DD was actually stopped. Not Moving. Not killing, etc. besides when DS used the Beams on him.
Again with the "cheap shot".It's not a low showing if someone doesn't behave according tho how you want them to. Just because DS didn't behave the way you wanted him to, doesn't make this showing any less valid.
From what I see, the attacks landed to the FRONT of DS's face. It is NOT a cheap shot to beat someone to the gun before you are shot. The same way it is not a cheap shot to close into someone then punch him in the face before he shoots you with a gun.
Originally posted by lightyeargee
DS back was turned. Cheap Shot.
DS's back was turned when he grappled him. In many circles, even in accepted MMA fighting, grappling from the rear isn't a cheapshot. Attacks landed to the front when DS was ALREADY facing DD.
Shooting someone in the back, however, is a universally accepted cheap shot.
Originally posted by lightyeargee
Name any other time in the series where DD was actually stopped. Not Moving. Not killing, etc. besides when DS used the Beams on him.
Nice try trying to divert the argument to another direction. It wasn't a cheap shot. Get over it.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210Um, if My back is turned, and you grapple me from the back, I count that as a cheap shot. Don't know who you been talking too but I am undefended and grappling does cause dmg. Especially if It's effing Hunter Prey Doomsday. Sorry you logic is a fail.
DS's back was turned when he grappled him. In many circles, even in accepted MMA fighting, grappling from the rear isn't a cheapshot. Attacks landed to the front when DS was ALREADY facing DD.Shooting someone in the back, however, is a universally accepted cheap shot.
Nice try trying to divert the argument to another direction. It wasn't a cheap shot. Get over it.
Originally posted by lightyeargee
Um, if My back is turned, and you grapple me from the back, I count that as a cheap shot. Don't know who you been talking too but I am undefended and grappling does cause dmg. Especially if It's effing Hunter Prey Doomsday. Sorry you logic is a fail.
1) If you're carrying a ranged weapon while all I have is my fists, that's not even close to a cheap shot.
2) If I wait for you to turn around before pounding you, not a cheap shot
3) If you're that much of a wuss that my tackle KOs you, still not a cheap shot cuz you CHOSE to turn your back in a fight that's not even over yet.
4) If you cheap shotted me FIRST, it's not a cheap shot. Turnabout is fair play, you know.
Your logic fails 4x more.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210If a robber comes in your house and is breaking up your stuff and you shoot him, it's not a cheap shot since he attacked first. DD was attacking Apoc and pwning Herald level Parademons. So no cheap shot ever came from DS.
1) If you're carrying a ranged weapon while all I have is my fists, that's not even close to a cheap shot.
2) If I wait for you to turn around before pounding you, still not a cheap shot
3) If you're that much of a wuss that my tackle KOs you, still not a cheap shot cuz you CHOSE to turn your back in a fight that's not even over yet.
4) If you cheap shotted me FIRST, it's not a cheap shot. Turnabout is fair play, you know.Your logic fails 4x more.
IF your Hunter Prey DD, then a tackle could crack open a planet.
Everything else yousaid was a massive fail.
Originally posted by lightyeargee
If a robber comes in your house and is breaking up your stuff and you shoot him,
I never said DS's action was unjustified. Hell, he had every right to cheap shot DD. He was wrecking his crib. Doesn't make it any less of a cheap shot. He shot him in the back, plain and simple.
Justified and sporting are 2 different things. Learn to differentiate please.
Originally posted by lightyeargee
it's not a cheap shot since he attacked first.
So, if you punch me in the face, it's NOT a cheap shot for me to shoot you in the back?
Originally posted by lightyeargee
DD was attacking Apoc and pwning Herald level Parademons.
So, due to DS's fear of DD's power from pwning all his "herald lvl" parademons, DS resorted to a cheap shot?
How does this help your argument?
Originally posted by lightyeargee
IF your Hunter Prey DD, then a tackle could crack open a planet.
Didn't seem to crack the planet that time. Must be one of his lesser tackles.
Originally posted by lightyeargee
Everything else yousaid was a massive fail.
Tsk. Tsk.
Originally posted by brownqk
Thanos all day; Superman/Thor defenders seem to believe that Superman beating Darkseid is evidence that Supes and Thor could beat Thanos. It is not.Thanos >Darkseid certainly when it comes to durability (other things are debatable.) When has Thanos been wrecked in 3 punches by a mere herald?
Thanos is too durable and will outlast both, even if I granted, for the sake of argument, that both Superman and Thor were stronger.
There's no such thing as a "mere" herald in comics. Those are categories put in forums for ease of debate and are based on averages. They don't tell you how strong character x is at his peak or how durable etc. Especially when you're talking about characters with dynamic strength and durability like Superman or the Hulk. Bassically part of there powerset is to amp up there physical stats through mental control.
These heroes can punch above their weight class, also it is important to note that Supes powerset is combat oriented. He can't do godly esoteric feats but what he has is a combat effective powerset.
As far as the thread goes I see the team taking a solid majority. My reasoning is simple, the numbers are against him, he's not going to get the time he needs and quite frankly Thanos doesn't have esoteric powers on the level of an omega effect, where he can essentially one shot or reality warp someone with a single or at least a few blasts.
Everything we've seen from him in terms of energy seems to be of a concussive nature against higher level beings.