double standard in the judicial system

Started by Wild Shadow3 pages

double standard in the judicial system

when will the double standard in the judicial system stop when will we say enough is enough,,,

4 women tie, blind fold and sexually assault a man and belittle him while naked.. and all they get is minor probation if it was a man who did this to a woman he be in prison for at least half a decade.

ooh forgot to mention they crazy clued his penis to his stomach

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/women_avoid_jail_in_penis_glue_plot_tJEgBDsYQFiYN1scME6p4K

CHILTON, Wis. — A Wisconsin woman who tied up a cheating lover and glued his penis to his stomach said Tuesday that she didn't mean to hurt him and only overreacted because he had tried to contact her 12-year-old daughter.

Therese A. Ziemann, 48, of Menasha, said she and three other women only meant to confront the married man about his cheating ways. Her decision to grab the bottle of nail glue from her makeup bag was "a stupid spur-of-the-minute decision," she said.

"I had just found my daughter's number in his cell phone," she said outside a Calumet County courtroom. "It was just a warning from me to him, to stay away from the kids."

Ziemann, her sister, another lover and the man's wife were all sentenced Tuesday to one year probation plus community service for their roles in the revenge plot. A judge also imposed and stayed jail sentences of 60 days for Ziemann and 30 days for the other three, meaning they would only serve the jail terms if they violate the conditions of their probation.

Ziemann, a mother of six, acknowledged that she lured the 37-year-old man to a motel last J
The 48-year-old mum-of-six then slapped Davis in the face, cut off his underwear and used nail glue to stick his member to his stomach.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/women_avoid_jail_in_penis_glue_plot_tJEgBDsYQFiYN1scME6p4K#ixzz0rSQFRjlz

It will end when Women go back to just being our slaves, and thus no longer a walking contradiction. Women like to profess that that they can do anything a Man can do and thus should be treated so, and yet when they are expected to take beatings and rapings as well as us, they falter and complain. It's not fair at all.

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Obviously, I'm being satirical. But, there is a definite double standard between the two genders.

Depends on the crime. There are some crimes where men are prosecuted and punished more harshly, and the same is true with women.

Male teachers who have sex with under-aged students are more harshly punished than women who do the same. But women who murder their children are more harshly punished than men who do the same.

I remember reading a few studies for a paper I wrote.

This study seems familiar as I remember one from Texas...but the researcher's name isn't sounding familiar:

http://works.bepress.com/gang_lee/5/

Abstract:

Objective. Many studies find that females benefit from their gender in sentencing decisions. Few researchers, however, address whether the gender-sentencing association might be stronger for some crimes, such as minor nonviolent offending, and weaker for other offenses, such as serious violent crime. Method. Using a large random sample of convicted offenders in Texas drawn from a statewide project on sentencing practices mandated by the 73rd Texas Legislature, logistic regression and OLS regression analyses of likelihood of imprisonment and prison length illustrate the importance of looking at sentencing outcomes not only in terms of gender but also in terms of crime type. Results. Specifically, we find that the effect of gender on sentencing does vary by crime type, but not in a consistent or predicted fashion. For both property and drug offending, females are less likely to be sentenced to prison and also receive shorter sentences if they are sentenced to prison. For violent offending, however, females are no less likely than males to receive prison time, but for those who do, females receive substantially shorter sentences than males. Conclusions. We conclude that such variation in the gender-sentencing association across crime type is largely due to features of Texas’ legal code that channel the level of discretion available to judges depending on crime type and whether incarceration likelihood or sentence length is examined.

Anyway, I don't remember reading about women getting harsher sentences for violent crimes against their own children...or any children. It seemed, generally, that women got lighter sentences for everything, across the board with some of the 'data' getting harsher than the average for males. But, this is about the average, not the exception.

Re: double standard in the judicial system

Originally posted by Wild Shadow

4 women tie, blind fold and sexually assault a man and belittle him while naked.. and all they get is minor probation if it was a man who did this to a woman he be in prison for at least half a decade.

Actually, chances are more likely that if it was a man that did that, they'd never even be brought up on charges.

Re: Re: double standard in the judicial system

Originally posted by Peach
Actually, chances are more likely that if it was a man that did that, they'd never even be brought up on charges.

Because someone would just kill him?

Re: Re: Re: double standard in the judicial system

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Because someone would just kill him?

Good point.

You think of sexual assault you think of men and the punishments they recieve. I can't even think of 5 sexual assault cases caused by women.

I think it's the other way around Peach. You always hear about men sexually assaulting women, but if you want to hear it the other way around you really have to dig deep in the news the never really publicise any of that.

Re: Re: Re: double standard in the judicial system

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Because someone would just kill him?

No, I think she's making a dark joke about men who get away with that type of assault.

is there actually evidence that if men did the same they would get 5 years? maybe this is just the Canadian in me, but who engage in assault over drugs don't get 5 years...

Re: Re: Re: Re: double standard in the judicial system

Originally posted by Liberator
Good point.

You think of sexual assault you think of men and the punishments they recieve. I can't even think of 5 sexual assault cases caused by women.

I think it's the other way around Peach. You always hear about men sexually assaulting women, but if you want to hear it the other way around you really have to dig deep in the news the never really publicise any of that.

men rarely, RARELY, report sexual assualt

that being said, I can think of reasons other than media burrying the story that may explain such a lack of female-to-male sexual abuse

Originally posted by inimalist
is there actually evidence that if men did the same they would get 5 years? maybe this is just the Canadian in me, but who engage in assault over drugs don't get 5 years...
Sentencing for rape varies depending on circumstances and locale. However, Department of Justice (DOJ) reports this:

The average sentence for criminals convicted of rape in the United States (and released in 1992) is 117 months. The average time served is 65 months, which equates to 56 percent of the actual sentence served. For crimes of sexual assault, the average sentence is 72 months, and the average time served is 35 months, equating to 49 percent of time served. (Greenfeld, Lawrence A., 1995, "Prison Sentences and Time Served for Violence," page 1, Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Department of Justice, Washington, D.C.)

I found this information at: http://ojp.usdoj.gov/ovc/ncvrw/1996/m-rape.htm

its just a number i threw out as the bare minimum not including other crimes that could be added like sexual, assault, false imprisonment possibly even a hate crime due to gender.. 😉

lol, do you have a comparable situation where men were charged with rape? that sounds like a lot of hyperbole to me, and from what you have posted, there is absolutly no rape charge. in fact, it is really only sexual in that it was his penis that was assaulted. I'll call it sexual assault, but like, if a couple of guys tied up a cheating girl, slapped her, and like put glue on her junk, I can see there being a similar result.

don't get me wrong, I think there are legitimate gender biases in the justice system, but I tend to think this isn't a very good example

the full article had a laundry list of charges on the women it just happen that they cut a deal for the minor ones and the severe ones werent even brought up..

also if a man did anything to a woman's genitalia it be considered rape when its without consent

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
the full article had a laundry list of charges on the women it just happen that they cut a deal for the minor ones and the severe ones werent even brought up..

lol, so they were charged with all the stuff you wanted them to be, but settled?

I fail to see your gender discrimination

Yea, I doubt me and my friends would just get probation for tying a girl up and gluing her vag together.

Or maybe we would, hmm.... 😖hifty:

Originally posted by inimalist
lol, so they were charged with all the stuff you wanted them to be, but settled?

I fail to see your gender discrimination

they dropped charges on the women when they shouldnt have they had an air tight case.

Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, I doubt me and my friends would just get probation for tying a girl up and gluing her vag together.

Or maybe we would, hmm.... 😖hifty:

If you touched her vagine, you'd risk being charged with rape. May or may not fly, depends on how crafty the prosecution is.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
they dropped charges on the women when they shouldnt have they had an air tight case.

lol, do you have any idea of how common this is in ALL CASES? he'll, cops will charge you with absolutly anything they can think of in order to make something stick.

Originally posted by Robtard
If you touched her vagine, you'd risk being charged with rape. May or may not fly, depends on how crafty the prosecution is.
What if I use tongs?

Originally posted by Mindset
What if I use tongs?

Charged with tossing her salad?