Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, I doubt me and my friends would just get probation for tying a girl up and gluing her vag together.Or maybe we would, hmm.... 😖hifty:
can you cite an example?
I tend to think people exaggerate these things, simply because I know people who have been charged and convicted of a MUCH worse assault, and all they got was probation, iirc
Originally posted by inimalistNo, I've sadly never done it before.
can you cite an example?I tend to think people exaggerate these things, simply because I know people who have been charged and convicted of a MUCH worse assault, and all they got was probation, iirc
Did their assault involve restraining someone and messing with their genitalia? Because if not, then the situations are not at all similar. I've known people who have assaulted someone and only gotten probation too.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
were they rich white males with high price lawyers who twist and bend the truth and have juror question themselves plus get their clients off on technicalities like improper procedures?
nope, guy comes from a family of farmers and, I suspect, had little legal defense.
Originally posted by Mindset
No, I've sadly never done it before.Did their assault involve restraining someone and messing with their genitalia? Because if not, then the situations are not at all similar. I've known people who have assaulted someone and only gotten probation too.
that is sort of my point. we can't actually say that there is any gender bias in this case becuase we don't have a similar case involving males. I was only using the example to show that assault, even serious, doesn't always net jail time, at least in Canada.
Originally posted by inimalistyes. but, its done when they know they may not be able to get a conviction or have a slam dunk case..
lol, do you have any idea of how common this is in ALL CASES? he'll, cops will charge you with absolutly anything they can think of in order to make something stick.
this was the complete opposite they had full admission from the women no way they could counter in a court of law.. the only thing that might have motivated the prosecution decision is either they felt the jury would not be willing to convict them due to the harshness of the sentence or favoritism toward the women.
either way it shows the double standard. its like when a man or woman kills their attacker weeks or months later murder and conspiracy is still present you still charge them for the crime and ask for leniency due to the situation/circumstance but you dont turn around and charge them with man slaughter or negligent homicide..
anyone else recall the Lorena Bobbitt trial?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_and_Lorena_Bobbitt
WS:
I'm not sure if you know the case: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karla_Homolka
homolka raped and killed a bunch of women with a guy named paul bernardo. because she co-operated with the cops AND because the cops didn't think she was as involvedas she was, got away with murder, in the opinions of the Canadian public.
for as ardent a supported of fair and equitable justice as I am, IMHO, there is no reason she shouldn't be in prison for the rest of her life.
Originally posted by Quiero MotaI'm pretty sure that men who murder their own children don't just get a slap on the wrist. They would either get a life sentence, or death sentence, depending on the state, just like a woman. It's just that you see women do it more often, because women have less control over their emotions than men.
Depends on the crime. There are some crimes where men are prosecuted and punished more harshly, and the same is true with women.Male teachers who have sex with under-aged students are more harshly punished than women who do the same. But women who murder their children are more harshly punished than men who do the same.
Originally posted by Amazing Vrayo!!
I'm pretty sure that men who murder their own children don't just get a slap on the wrist. They would either get a life sentence, or death sentence, depending on the state, just like a woman. It's just that you see women do it more often, because women have less control over their emotions than men.
I never said that they'd get a slap on the wrist, just that women who do it are prosecuted more harshly, and they become media circuses that never go away. Remember Susan Smith and Andrea Yates? Well, what well-publicized male equivalents are there?
After all, women are the nurturing, less violent gender, so when that happens, an example must be made. That's the attitude of the justice system towards female filicide.
Originally posted by Quiero MotaThey may not get publicized like women do, but they probably still get the same sentences. I'm sure that someone who's spending at least 30 years rotting away in prison doesn't give half a damn what the media thinks.
I never said that they'd get a slap on the wrist, just that women who do it are prosecuted more harshly, and they become media circuses that never go away. Remember Susan Smith and Andrea Yates? Well, what well-publicized male equivalents are there?After all, women are the nurturing, less violent gender, so when that happens, an example must be made. That's the attitude of the justice system towards female filicide.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I never said that they'd get a slap on the wrist, just that women who do it are prosecuted more harshly, and they become media circuses that never go away. Remember Susan Smith and Andrea Yates? Well, what well-publicized male equivalents are there?After all, women are the nurturing, less violent gender, so when that happens, an example must be made. That's the attitude of the justice system towards female filicide.
On that note, In the UK for example the specific crime of infanticide can only be committed by a mother.