Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
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Mental powers won't work on Bella. Her thoughts can't be read, and no mental powers can affect her in her shield.
Body-switching would be quite useless, as well. How would David use Bella's powers (which would be ace for the Rice vamps as that nulls most of the Meyer vamps' powers) when it took Bella months to get where she got and she was called the most natural vampire they met, mastering her blood lust on her very first hunting trip (unheard of).
Also, in the book, the vampires move so fast in short ranges that it appears instant. 🙂
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Khayman ripping Bella apart in less than a second'll do the trick ✅How so?
How can that happen when the person can't get through the other shield that's in place?
You know, the physical shield.
Also, how can that happen when the twivamps have completely disabled all the other vampires that are outside of the shield, simply by using their regular powers?
If all else fails, Alec can just do his thing and any vamp that even tries to get inside Bella's shield, they will immediately lose all their senses and become sitting ducks.
Originally posted by dadudemonThese shields, have they ever been shown working on someone with body thief powers? Against pyrokinetic TK attacks? Against a faster, stronger vampire walking up and ripping them apart?
How can that happen when the person can't get through the other shield that's in place?You know, the physical shield.
Also, how can that happen when the twivamps have completely disabled all the other vampires that are outside of the shield, simply by using their regular powers?
If all else fails, Alec can just do his thing and any vamp that even tries to get inside Bella's shield, they will immediately lose all their senses and become sitting ducks.
As for Bella's mental shield, Khayman simply walks over and rips her apart.
As for Renata's physical shield, Akasha TK's her. Or Lestat can simply enter her body. David can do this too.
The sense removal thing by Alec? I'm betting he has to see his target. Akasha simply fries him from cloud cover. Or, you know, the body thief thing.
And, if I am not mistaken, there are 22 Twivamps listed below, yes? Is that all of them?
http://www.squidoo.com/vampireabilites
Edward-mind reading
Alice-precognition
Jasper-mood manipulation
Bella-mental shield
Renesmee-thought sharing
Eleazar- sense others power
Kate- electrical skin
Maggie-lie detection
Siobhan-steers outcomes to her will
Alistair-tracker
Charles-lie detection
Zafrina- visual illusions or take away their sight
Ben-element control
Jane-burning illusion
Alec- senses removal
Renata-physical shield
Marcus- sesnes bonds
Chelsea- senses and breaks bonds
Aro-reads minds through touch
Demetri-tracker
Didyme-has the power to make others happy
James-tracker
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
These shields, have they ever been shown working on someone with body thief powers? Against pyrokinetic TK attacks? Against a faster, stronger vampire walking up and ripping them apart?
Those powers, have they been shown to work on anyone with a mental shield?
Those powers, have they been shown to work while they are completely incapacitated?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
As for Bella's mental shield, Khayman simply walks over and rips her apart.
"How can that happen when the person can't get through the other shield that's in place?
You know, the physical shield.
Also, how can that happen when the twivamps have completely disabled all the other vampires that are outside of the shield, simply by using their regular powers?"
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
As for Renata's physical shield, Akasha TK's her. Or Lestat can simply enter her body. David can do this too.
"How can that happen when the person can't get through the other shield that's in place?
You know, the physical shield.
Also, how can that happen when the twivamps have completely disabled all the other vampires that are outside of the shield, simply by using their regular powers?"
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The sense removal thing by Alec? I'm betting he has to see his target. Akasha simply fries him from cloud cover. Or, you know, the body thief thing.
Wrong, it's just a mist he projects.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And, if I am not mistaken, there are 22 Twivamps listed below, yes? Is that all of them?
No, not even close.
Come, RJ, you can do better than these petty, old, and tired arguments. I could have pwned myself, by now, if I were arguing your side. The problem is, you don't know enough about Twlight to make an argument.
I still haven't brought out the big 'guns' against the Rice vamps. I've got 6 uber epic pwns, ready. Been holdin' 'em back for a week, to pwn you without using those.
Originally posted by That ACDC Chick
Bella's shield only stops attacks produced from the mind awehawe
like Jane's attack and Edward's mind-reading
Exactly. All mind powers are nulled. No physical. That's what Aro's wife is for. 🙂
Originally posted by dadudemon
Those powers, have they been shown to work on anyone with a mental shield?Those powers, have they been shown to work while they are completely incapacitated?
Mental shield would not block a TK attack or a physical attack. Akasha can fry Bella or she can be ripped apart with ease.
"How can that happen when the person can't get through the other shield that's in place?You know, the physical shield.
Also, how can that happen when the twivamps have completely disabled all the other vampires that are outside of the shield, simply by using their regular powers?"
Here's what I found on the physical shield:
http://twilightsaga.wikia.com/wiki/Volturi
Renata, also a member of the guard, is a shield. She shields Aro and stands by his side at all times. She is described in Breaking Dawn as being so close to Aro it appears she is touching him, moving with him as "being so close, her hands slightly outstretched, her hands looked to be "sewn" onto Aro's cloak." She shields physical attacks. When the person/vampire is attacking, she repels them by confusing them. They end up going in a different direction and are unaware of what they were doing in the first place.
Wouldn't block Akasha's TK fire attack. Or any of the other TEN Rice vamps that can do the same. Much less a body thief attack.
"How can that happen when the person can't get through the other shield that's in place?You know, the physical shield.
Also, how can that happen when the twivamps have completely disabled all the other vampires that are outside of the shield, simply by using their regular powers?"
Here's what I found on the physical shield:
http://twilightsaga.wikia.com/wiki/Volturi
Renata, also a member of the guard, is a shield. She shields Aro and stands by his side at all times. She is described in Breaking Dawn as being so close to Aro it appears she is touching him, moving with him as "being so close, her hands slightly outstretched, her hands looked to be "sewn" onto Aro's cloak." She shields physical attacks. When the person/vampire is attacking, she repels them by confusing them. They end up going in a different direction and are unaware of what they were doing in the first place.
Wouldn't block Akasha's TK fire attack. Or any of the other TEN Rice vamps that can do the same. Much less a body thief attack.
Wrong, it's just a mist he projects.K. So Akasha fries him from thousands of feet high, under cloud cover. Her TK attack in instant.
Come, RJ, you can do better than these petty, old, and tired arguments. I could have pwned myself, by now, if I were arguing your side. The problem is, you don't know enough about Twlight to make an argument.I still haven't brought out the big 'guns' against the Rice vamps. I've got 6 uber epic pwns, ready. Been holdin' 'em back for a week, to pwn you without using those.
Bring it on, big boy. That's what the thread is for.
Exactly. All mind powers are nulled. No physical. That's what Aro's wife is for. 🙂Akasha's TK fire attack is NOT mental, doofus. 🙄
Mental shield? trumped by any of the Ricevamps moving over faster than she can react and ripping her to shreds Or Akasha's TK pyro attack.
Physical shield? trumped by Akasha's TK pyro attack. Or a body thief attack.
Alec's sense removal? Trumped by Akasha or any one of other ten Ricevamps who can fry him where he stands, instantly.
Don't forget David Talbot and Jesse. They are members of the Talamasca, they know everything about all vampires. They will know every Twivamp inside and out, making planning an attack that much easier.
BTW, before you proceed to say that the mental shield will block Akasha's TK pyro attack:
Fire Gift. Another power usually only developed by a Child of the Millennia. This gift is known to be possessed by Marius, Akasha, Eudoxia, Thorne, Khayman, Lestat, Mekare and Maharet, and later the vampires Merrick Mayfair and Quinn Blackwood. With the Fire Gift, a vampire can set alight an object or being of their choice, for example, in Blood and Gold, when Akasha destroyed Eudoxia's body by fire, or in the film when she set fire to the vampires in bar and at the concert. Use of the gift on humans was performed by Lestat in Blood Canticle, when he set aflame gunmen on the tropical island. The Fire Gift is specially fatal to vampires, as the "changed" blood found within their bodies ignites easily, thus rendering them extremely vulnerable to fire.
Your turn.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Mental shield would not block a TK attack or a physical attack. Akasha can fry Bella or she can be ripped apart with ease.
"How can that happen when the person can't get through the other shield that's in place?
You know, the physical shield.
Also, how can that happen when the twivamps have completely disabled all the other vampires that are outside of the shield, simply by using their regular powers?"
Here's what I found on the physical shield:
http://twilightsaga.wikia.com/wiki/Volturi
Renata, also a member of the guard, is a shield. She shields Aro and stands by his side at all times. She is described in Breaking Dawn as being so close to Aro it appears she is touching him, moving with him as "being so close, her hands slightly outstretched, her hands looked to be "sewn" onto Aro's cloak." She shields physical attacks. When the person/vampire is attacking, she repels them by confusing them. They end up going in a different direction and are unaware of what they were doing in the first place.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Wouldn't block Akasha's TK fire attack. Or any of the other TEN Rice vamps that can do the same. Much less a body thief attack.
"Here's what I found on the physical shield:
http://twilightsaga.wikia.com/wiki/Volturi
Renata, also a member of the guard, is a shield. She shields Aro and stands by his side at all times. She is described in Breaking Dawn as being so close to Aro it appears she is touching him, moving with him as "being so close, her hands slightly outstretched, her hands looked to be "sewn" onto Aro's cloak." She shields physical attacks. When the person/vampire is attacking, she repels them by confusing them. They end up going in a different direction and are unaware of what they were doing in the first place."
So,
"How can that happen when the person can't get through the other shield that's in place?
You know, the physical shield.
Also, how can that happen when the twivamps have completely disabled all the other vampires that are outside of the shield, simply by using their regular powers?"
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
K. So Akasha fries him from thousands of feet high, under cloud cover. Her TK attack in instant.
"How can that happen when the person can't get through the other shield that's in place?
You know, the physical shield.
Also, how can that happen when the twivamps have completely disabled all the other vampires that are outside of the shield, simply by using their regular powers?"
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Bring it on, big boy. That's what the thread is for.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Akasha's TK fire attack is NOT mental, doofus. 🙄Mental shield? trumped by any of the Ricevamps moving over faster than she can react and ripping her to shreds Or Akasha's TK pyro attack.
Physical shield? trumped by Akasha's TK pyro attack. Or a body thief attack.
Alec's sense removal? Trumped by Akasha or any one of other ten Ricevamps who can fry him where he stands, instantly.
Don't forget David Talbot and Jesse. They are members of the Talamasca, they know everything about all vampires. They will know every Twivamp inside and out, making planning an attack that much easier.
BTW, before you proceed to say that the mental shield will block Akasha's TK pyro attack:
Fire Gift. Another power usually only developed by a Child of the Millennia. This gift is known to be possessed by Marius, Akasha, Eudoxia, Thorne, Khayman, Lestat, Mekare and Maharet, and later the vampires Merrick Mayfair and Quinn Blackwood. With the Fire Gift, a vampire can set alight an object or being of their choice, for example, in Blood and Gold, when Akasha destroyed Eudoxia's body by fire, or in the film when she set fire to the vampires in bar and at the concert. Use of the gift on humans was performed by Lestat in Blood Canticle, when he set aflame gunmen on the tropical island. The Fire Gift is specially fatal to vampires, as the "changed" blood found within their bodies ignites easily, thus rendering them extremely vulnerable to fire.
Your turn.
"Here's what I found on the physical shield:
http://twilightsaga.wikia.com/wiki/Volturi
Renata, also a member of the guard, is a shield. She shields Aro and stands by his side at all times. She is described in Breaking Dawn as being so close to Aro it appears she is touching him, moving with him as "being so close, her hands slightly outstretched, her hands looked to be "sewn" onto Aro's cloak." She shields physical attacks. When the person/vampire is attacking, she repels them by confusing them. They end up going in a different direction and are unaware of what they were doing in the first place."
So,
"How can that happen when the person can't get through the other shield that's in place?
You know, the physical shield.
Also, how can that happen when the twivamps have completely disabled all the other vampires that are outside of the shield, simply by using their regular powers?"
🙂
Okay, so I'll bring out ONE of the big guns that I've been saving to pwn the shit out of you: one of the vamps as a gift that is akin to mild Felix Felicious potion...cept it's always on. 🙂
Originally posted by dadudemon
"How can that happen when the person can't get through the other shield that's in place?You know, the physical shield.
Also, how can that happen when the twivamps have completely disabled all the other vampires that are outside of the shield, simply by using their regular powers?"
Here's what I found on the physical shield:
http://twilightsaga.wikia.com/wiki/Volturi
Renata, also a member of the guard, is a shield. She shields Aro and stands by his side at all times. She is described in Breaking Dawn as being so close to Aro it appears she is touching him, moving with him as "being so close, her hands slightly outstretched, her hands looked to be "sewn" onto Aro's cloak." She shields physical attacks. When the person/vampire is attacking, she repels them by confusing them. They end up going in a different direction and are unaware of what they were doing in the first place.
"Here's what I found on the physical shield:
http://twilightsaga.wikia.com/wiki/Volturi
Renata, also a member of the guard, is a shield. She shields Aro and stands by his side at all times. She is described in Breaking Dawn as being so close to Aro it appears she is touching him, moving with him as "being so close, her hands slightly outstretched, her hands looked to be "sewn" onto Aro's cloak." She shields physical attacks. When the person/vampire is attacking, she repels them by confusing them. They end up going in a different direction and are unaware of what they were doing in the first place."
So,
"How can that happen when the person can't get through the other shield that's in place?
You know, the physical shield.
Also, how can that happen when the twivamps have completely disabled all the other vampires that are outside of the shield, simply by using their regular powers?"
"How can that happen when the person can't get through the other shield that's in place?
You know, the physical shield.
Also, how can that happen when the twivamps have completely disabled all the other vampires that are outside of the shield, simply by using their regular powers?"
You haven't earned it, yet. I won't "debate" you with any level seriousness until you admit where you've been wrong.
"Here's what I found on the physical shield:
http://twilightsaga.wikia.com/wiki/Volturi
Renata, also a member of the guard, is a shield. She shields Aro and stands by his side at all times. She is described in Breaking Dawn as being so close to Aro it appears she is touching him, moving with him as "being so close, her hands slightly outstretched, her hands looked to be "sewn" onto Aro's cloak." She shields physical attacks. When the person/vampire is attacking, she repels them by confusing them. They end up going in a different direction and are unaware of what they were doing in the first place."
So,
"How can that happen when the person can't get through the other shield that's in place?
You know, the physical shield.
Also, how can that happen when the twivamps have completely disabled all the other vampires that are outside of the shield, simply by using their regular powers?"
🙂
Okay, so I'll bring out ONE of the big guns that I've been saving to pwn the shit out of you: one of the vamps as a gift that is akin to mild Felix Felicious potion...cept it's always on. 🙂
You're repeating yourself. Mental/physical shields do not block Akasha's pyrokinetic attacks.
Siobahn, yeah? 😆 All she can do is ATTEMPT to bend the outcome to her favor. From what I have been told from a Twilight authority, it's a pretty weak power, pretty much like a game of chance. Not gonna help her as Akasha torches her ass. Or one of the other ten pyros. Yeah......
Doesn't help her as Khayman rips her apart or Akasha fries her ass.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You're repeating yourself. Mental/physical shields do not block Akasha's pyrokinetic attacks.Siobahn, yeah? 😆 All she can do is ATTEMPT to bend the outcome to her favor. From what I have been told from a Twilight authority, it's a pretty weak power, pretty much like a game of chance. Not gonna help her as Akasha torches her ass. Or one of the other ten pyros. Yeah......
Doesn't help her as Khayman rips her apart or Akasha fries her ass.
"Here's what I found on the physical shield:
http://twilightsaga.wikia.com/wiki/Volturi
Renata, also a member of the guard, is a shield. She shields Aro and stands by his side at all times. She is described in Breaking Dawn as being so close to Aro it appears she is touching him, moving with him as "being so close, her hands slightly outstretched, her hands looked to be "sewn" onto Aro's cloak." She shields physical attacks. When the person/vampire is attacking, she repels them by confusing them. They end up going in a different direction and are unaware of what they were doing in the first place."
So,
"How can that happen when the person can't get through the other shield that's in place?
You know, the physical shield.
Also, how can that happen when the twivamps have completely disabled all the other vampires that are outside of the shield, simply by using their regular powers?"
Okay, so I'll bring out ONE of the big guns that I've been saving to pwn the shit out of you: one of the vamps as a gift that is akin to mild Felix Felicious potion...cept it's always on.
To actually add something, regardless of what you want, it's like a mild Felix Felicis. It bends outcomes to her favor, but not in an intrusive way...things just work out...very similar to Felix Felicis. The difference is it's not on very minor things, just on major things she concentrates on...at least that's what Carlisle believes.
That's just one. I've got 5 more of the "big guns" left.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Already buried the shields. Already buried Siobahn. Bring on the next one.
You didn't bury any of them. You pretty much side stepped them.
#3 of the big guns pretty much makes it a 5 man army. All it would take to destroy all of the Rice vamps is 5 twivamps.
And, you didn't bury jack about the luck gift. You can't avoid it, it's there.
Originally posted by dadudemon
You didn't bury any of them. You pretty much side stepped them.#3 of the big guns pretty much makes it a 5 man army. All it would take to destroy all of the Rice vamps is 5 twivamps.
And, you didn't bury jack about the luck gift. You can't avoid it, it's there.
Side stepped them how? Akashas pyro attack will not be blocked by a mental shield. Nor a physical shield. It's not an attack on ones mind. I don't see why you cannot accept this.
You keep talking about big guns, when am I gonna see them?
Siobahn is shit, her powers are nothing like Felix Felicis. She needs full concentration to use these powers, how's she gonna concentrate fully as Akasha sets her ass on fire?
And all it would take is one Ricevamp, Akasha, to destroy the Twitwinks. She hovers thousands of feet high, where they can't see her, and fries them, twenty at a time.
You are forgetting Jesse and David's ties to the Talamasca. They will know every Twivamp inside and out, their powers and abilities. All it takes is for Akasha (or one of the other TEN Ricevamps who can do the pyro attack) to know where Siobahn is (and yes, the Talamasca would know where she is, don't be a douche), fly there, hover in the clouds, and TK her ass. One Twitwink down, move on to the next. Fry them, move on to the next. Fry them, move on to the next. Yada yada yada yada yada. The Twitwinks will never see their attacker, they will never know what hit them.
BONG.