Anne Rice's "Vampire Chronicles" versus the "Twilight" Vampires

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Side stepped them how? Akashas pyro attack will not be blocked by a mental shield. Nor a physical shield. It's not an attack on ones mind. I don't see why you cannot accept this.

You keep talking about big guns, when am I gonna see them?

Siobahn is shit, her powers are nothing like Felix Felicis. She needs full concentration to use these powers, how's she gonna concentrate fully as Akasha sets her ass on fire?

And all it would take is one Ricevamp, Akasha, to destroy the Twitwinks. She hovers thousands of feet high, where they can't see her, and fries them, twenty at a time.

You are forgetting Jesse and David's ties to the Talamasca. They will know every Twivamp inside and out, their powers and abilities. All it takes is for Akasha (or one of the other TEN Ricevamps who can do the pyro attack) to know where Siobahn is (and yes, the Talamasca would know where she is, don't be a douche), fly there, hover in the clouds, and TK her ass. One Twitwink down, move on to the next. Fry them, move on to the next. Fry them, move on to the next. Yada yada yada yada yada. The Twitwinks will never see their attacker, they will never know what hit them.

BONG.

How will any of that attacks work when none of the attacks will work?

What part about that do you not get?

Originally posted by dadudemon
How will any of that attacks work when none of the attacks will work?

What part about that do you not get?

Easy. By frying the Twivamp that can nullifying their powers first, from thousands of feet away.

HA 😱

You see, no matter what you throw at me, I will always have a counter for. You can't win here.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Easy. By frying the Twivamp that can nullifying their powers first, from thousands of feet away.

HA 😱

You see, no matter what you throw at me, I will always have a counter for. You can't win here.

You didn't even address what I said. You just ignored it.

One more time:

"How will any of that attacks work when none of the attacks will work?

What part about that do you not get?"

Get this, as soon as they go to attack, they will turn away, confused as to what they were trying to do.

You see, no matter what you throw at me, I will always have a counter for. You can't win here.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Those powers, have they been shown to work on anyone with a mental shield?

Those powers, have they been shown to work while they are completely incapacitated?

"How can that happen when the person can't get through the other shield that's in place?

You know, the physical shield.

Also, how can that happen when the twivamps have completely disabled all the other vampires that are outside of the shield, simply by using their regular powers?"

"How can that happen when the person can't get through the other shield that's in place?

You know, the physical shield.

Also, how can that happen when the twivamps have completely disabled all the other vampires that are outside of the shield, simply by using their regular powers?"

Wrong, it's just a mist he projects.

No, not even close.

Come, RJ, you can do better than these petty, old, and tired arguments. I could have pwned myself, by now, if I were arguing your side. The problem is, you don't know enough about Twlight to make an argument.

I still haven't brought out the big 'guns' against the Rice vamps. I've got 6 uber epic pwns, ready. Been holdin' 'em back for a week, to pwn you without using those.

Exactly. All mind powers are nulled. No physical. That's what Aro's wife is for. 🙂

Bella can protect some physcal with the trainning she was doing. Remember when kate is trainning with her and she goes for nessie. She is able to protect herself and nessie agenst kate's electric skin power. Which is physical.

anne rice thats a real vamp book twilight is just different vamps

Originally posted by ~Bun Bun~
Bella can protect some physcal with the trainning she was doing. Remember when kate is trainning with her and she goes for nessie. She is able to protect herself and nessie agenst kate's electric skin power. Which is physical.

👆

Awesome.

You rock.

There is another one: Alec's mist. It just rolled up over Bella's shield.

John, that's the second one.
The mist is all three:
1. TK (it is controlled telekinetically)
2. Physical, because it's a mist that is denser than air generally travels gently above the ground.
3. A mental attack as once the mist makes contact with a person, all of their senses are nulled and it's oblivion for them.

It would appear that Bella's shield doesn't protect her from physical intrusions like...I dunno, a vampire. In the book, the only thing she feared was Felix (or one of the other guard) just waltzing right into the shield, but she didn't fear or even consider a physical object being thrown at her.

It's possible that it protects all but someone just walking right in.

One thing we do know: all powers that come from the mind and are offensive gifts, are nulled by Bella.

OTHER abilities that are not offensive weapons, like Siobhan's or Alice's abilities, still work, though.

So it would appear that only abilities that come from the mind that are directly offensive, don't get through her shield.

Bella did remark that she would be safe from Demetri, but she didn't want to let Edward and Renesme die and she live, so she would rather die with them than live on on her own, running from Demetri the rest of her long long vampire life. She even made plans to have Renesme saved by Jacob so that only her and Edward would die. I mention that because that means that even trackers would fail to detect Bella or anyone in her shield.

Originally posted by ~Bun Bun~
electric skin power.

The more I hear about the Twilight story, the lamer and lamer it gets.

Originally posted by ~Bun Bun~
Bella can protect some physcal with the trainning she was doing. Remember when kate is trainning with her and she goes for nessie. She is able to protect herself and nessie agenst kate's electric skin power. Which is physical.

Originally posted by Robtard
The more I hear about the Twilight story, the lamer and lamer it gets.

Originally posted by Robtard
The more I hear about the Twilight story, the lamer and lamer it gets.

from twilight.wikia.com

Katrina, more commonly known as Kate, is a vegetarian vampire, and is one of the "original" Denali sisters. She is also an originator of the myth of the succubus. She, like her sisters, has always loved men, even human ones. She has a strong relationship with her coven, as well as with the Olympic Coven. Kate is known to have a strong mind and has the talent of raising a mental electric current on her skin which shocks anyone in contact with her

Originally posted by That ACDC Chick
but it was produced mentally

Excellent point!

That doesn't bode well for any attack power developed mentally.

Wait, didn't I make that point, already, ages ago? (not today, but last week.)

How dare you steal my ideas.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Excellent point!

That doesn't bode well for any attack power developed mentally.

Wait, didn't I make that point, already, ages ago? (not today, but last week.)

How dare you steal my ideas.

Originally posted by That ACDC Chick
its cause im rootin around in your brains 😈
EW! didnt wanna see that 😘

HEY! You weren't supposed to see that! The toilet was too far away. weep

ive seen worse petpet

Originally posted by dadudemon
You didn't even address what I said. You just ignored it.

One more time:

"How will any of that attacks work when none of the attacks will work?

What part about that do you not get?"

Get this, as soon as they go to attack, they will turn away, confused as to what they were trying to do.

You see, no matter what you throw at me, I will always have a counter for. You can't win here.

Let's back up a bit. You do know what pyrokinesis is, yeah? And how the Ricevamps employ it?

Also, let's discuss h2h combat. No powers, straight up h2h combat.

is some one actually arguing for the tweens?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
is some one actually arguing for the tweens?

Originally posted by That ACDC Chick
from twilight.wikia.com

Katrina, more commonly known as Kate, is a vegetarian vampire, and is one of the "original" Denali sisters. She is also an originator of the myth of the succubus. She, like her sisters, has always loved men, even human ones. She has a strong relationship with her coven, as well as with the Olympic Coven. [b]Kate is known to have a strong mind and has the talent of raising a mental electric current on her skin which shocks anyone in contact with her [/B]

True but, one could argue the fact that she has to touch her victum. In turn the victum feels physical pan. Not mental tourture. Unlike Jane whom needs no contact with her victums.

Thats a tuffy because then one could argue the possability that all powers are brough from within ones self so does that make them metal or physial.

well we know its produced mentally because Bella's power negates it
plus Jasper's and Alice's power affect Bella cause they affect her whole being, not just her mind

Originally posted by That ACDC Chick
well we know its produced mentally because Bella's power negates it
plus Jasper's and Alice's power affect Bella cause they affect her whole being, not just her mind

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