Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
I'm just going off of what the quoted guy said. Goku can obviously beat any version of Superman outside of PC Superman....
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Once again, how? Asssuming he isn't nerfed, I doubt Superman would be hurt by ki attacks and sure as hell isn't getting beat in a fist-fight...I hope.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Once again, how? Asssuming he isn't nerfed, I doubt Superman would be hurt by ki attacks and sure as hell isn't getting beat in a fist-fight...I hope.
You're asking the wrong one. I'm not supporting Goku in a fight against Superman 1M.
Originally posted by cnorwood
goku is way more technical, hes trained under the greatest martial artist in the world, and god. hes not just smash and pound
How does he hurt or hit Superman 1M?
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Dragonballs can't affect someone more powerful than their creator, though.
Right, my bad. Would they be able to create Kryptonite though?
Originally posted by cnorwood
goku is way more technical, hes trained under the greatest martial artist in the world, and god. hes not just smash and pound
Batman's mastery of martial arts far surpasses Superman, and he's also more technical. Do you think Batman would stand a chance against Superman in a melee fight?
Goku being comparable to Batman in this scenario.
Also, Superman 1 Million would own SS4 Gogeta together with every other canon or non-canon DBU character that has appeared. He could do that under our regular Sun.
Originally posted by cnorwood
goku is way more technical, hes trained under the greatest martial artist in the world, and god. hes not just smash and pound
If your talking about Kami or King Kai, majority of human Z-fighters trained under them and they still don't hold a candle to Superman. Even if Goku has better fighting skills, he still has no way of actually hurting Superman: not that I know of.
On top of that no DBZ characters with the exception of Frieza, Cell and maybe Buu can survive in space, so what's stopping Superman from just grabbing Goku in a chokehold and flying him to space?
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
How does he hurt or hit Superman 1M?
Superman 1M vs Goku=cruelty
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Right, my bad. Would they be able to create Kryptonite though?
They'd have to know what Kryptonite is first. I don't think Shenron is Omniscient and would know of things like that honestly. I suppose if say Luthor brought him K-Nite and showed it to him and asked for something involving it then he should be able to.
That being said, Goku just having Kryptonite or even Kryptonite fists doesn't guarantee him a win. Holding a stick of Knite doesn't instantly drain him.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
If your talking about Kami or King Kai, majority of human Z-fighters trained under them and they still don't hold a candle to Superman. Even if Goku has better fighting skills, he still has no way of actually hurting Superman: not that I know of.On top of that no DBZ characters with the exception of Frieza, Cell and maybe Buu can survive in space, so what's stopping Superman from just grabbing Goku in a chokehold and flying him to space?
Superman 1M vs Goku=cruelty
whats stopping goku from doing an instant transmission if superman did that. and we're talking about manga goku who does instant transmission all the time when he needs it, not anime goku who stalls alot.
Originally posted by cnorwood
superman 1m=superman 1million, right? well thats another possibly non canonical story, thats like using goku 1million years after he fuses with the dragonballs, in gt.
You said he could beat any version of Superman outside of PC Superman though. Can you prove it is non-canon?
Originally posted by cnorwood
goku is way more technical, hes trained under the greatest martial artist in the world, and god. hes not just smash and pound
neither is superman.
Originally posted by cnorwood
superman 1m=superman 1million, right? well thats another possibly non canonical story, thats like using goku 1million years after he fuses with the dragonballs, in gt.
it's an alternate one. canonicity doesn't apply.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
You said he could beat any version of Superman outside of PC Superman though. Can you prove it is non-canon?
I still say the basis Superman is more than enough. Superman 1M is just wrong. Not as wrong as Pre-Crisis Superman but still pretty bad
Originally posted by cnorwood
whats stopping goku from doing an instant transmission if superman did that. and we're talking about manga goku who does instant transmission all the time when he needs it, not anime goku who stalls alot.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I still say the basis Superman is more than enough.
That he is, I was just going to one of the extremes to see how he'd argue against a non-arguable stomp. He started defending Goku and then when its said that Superman 1M is leagues above Goku he starts questioning the Canonical status of Superman 1M.
Originally posted by cnorwood
i never said superman 1 million was leagues above goku, i just thought we were using the most current goku vs the most current superman. if we are using any goku vs any superman i could be like ssj4 goku could give supermans mom an abortion she would never forget
I know you didn't say that, I did. SSJ 4 Goku can't touch Superman 1M or not nor can he fly to Krypton in the past and give someone an abortion.