Originally posted by Endless Mike
ROFLMAOSuperman 1 Million could destroy a trillion SSJ3 Gokus in his sleep. He's so ridiculously faster, stronger, and more powerful it's laughable. Goku can't even survive without oxygen.
And this is where we disagree. Lets use Buu as an example. Supreme Ki told the story of kid buu, how he was created etc... during this story that was being told Kid Buu destroyed an entire Galaxy; he didnt know of the instant transmission, NOTHING... he simply destroyed a Galaxy (and it was shown).
Super Saiyan 3 Goku MATCHED and admitted that he could have defeated Kid Buu in the beginning but he just wanted Vegeta to have a chance at fighting him.
Since Goku was either Kid Buus=or>... that leaves me with the assumption that Goku would rip Superman 1 million to shreds.
Originally posted by carver9
And this is where we disagree. Lets use Buu as an example. Supreme Ki told the story of kid buu, how he was created etc... during this story that was being told Kid Buu destroyed an entire Galaxy; he didnt know of the instant transmission, NOTHING... he simply destroyed a Galaxy (and it was shown).
That's anime filler and not canon. In the manga, it was stated that he destroyed "several hundred planets" over a period of a few years.
No canon DB character has ever demonstrated the ability to destroy anything more than a planet at once.
Super Saiyan 3 Goku MATCHED and admitted that he could have defeated Kid Buu in the beginning but he just wanted Vegeta to have a chance at fighting him.
Wrong. SSJ3 Goku was fighting Kid Buu evenly at first, but then he began to lose his ki whereas Buu's stamina was not going down. So he needed to use the Genki Dama and a wish from the Dragonballs to beat him.
Since Goku was either Kid Buus=or>... that leaves me with the assumption that Goku would rip Superman 1 million to shreds.
You're hilarious. Even if we accept your non-canon crap over the canon material (and this is just to humor you), all that means is that Kid Buu was able to destroy a galaxy over an unspecified period of time (remember in the anime it showed individual planets being destroyed in that scene, and it was also stated that Bibidi had to seal him up in that ball in order to transport him from planet to planet), which is hardly comparable to someone who could hold the movement of an entire galaxy at once, as well as travel through time, move much faster than light (No DB character is even 1% of lightspeed), has tons of abilities including 5d imp abilities, and can survive in space, something that Goku cannot do.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
That's anime filler and not canon. In the manga, it was stated that he destroyed "several hundred planets" over a period of a few years.No canon DB character has ever demonstrated the ability to destroy anything more than a planet at once.
Wrong. SSJ3 Goku was fighting Kid Buu evenly at first, but then he began to lose his ki whereas Buu's stamina was not going down. So he needed to use the Genki Dama and a wish from the Dragonballs to beat him.
You're hilarious. Even if we accept your non-canon crap over the canon material (and this is just to humor you), all that means is that Kid Buu was able to destroy a galaxy over an unspecified period of time (remember in the anime it showed individual planets being destroyed in that scene, and it was also stated that Bibidi had to seal him up in that ball in order to transport him from planet to planet), which is hardly comparable to someone who could hold the movement of an entire galaxy at once, as well as travel through time, move much faster than light (No DB character is even 1% of lightspeed), has tons of abilities including 5d imp abilities, and can survive in space, something that Goku cannot do.
The anime is just as cannon as the manga since again, Akira gave them as much rights to Goku as he does but we know why you dont want to accept it as cannon facts.
Another thing, it showed kid buu in one panel annihilating a galaxy and its nothing to take away from that unless, again, you ignore what was said and shown.
1% the speed of light? Naah, they are much faster and again, that is if you want to ignore what was shown in the anime which again is as canon as the manga but lets not forget that as a child, po po taught and trained Goku to be faster than lightning and THAT was shown in the manga.
Originally posted by carver9Because it's not.
The anime is just as cannon as the manga since again, Akira gave them as much rights to Goku as he does but we know why you dont want to accept it as cannon facts.
Marvel owns the rights to the X-Men. This doesn't mean anything that the X-Men are in are all canon to each other.
Originally posted by carver9I'd ask to see the scan in the manga.. but...
Another thing, it showed kid buu in one panel annihilating a galaxy and its nothing to take away from that unless, again, you ignore what was said and shown.
http://www.boxmanga.com/0/0808/06/08/3840896c.jpg
In a few YEARS he destroyed several hundred PLANETS.
not solar systems, not galaxies, planets.
On Panel.
Originally posted by carver9You're full of it.
1% the speed of light? Naah, they are much faster and again, that is if you want to ignore what was shown in the anime which again is as canon as the manga but lets not forget that as a child, po po taught and trained Goku to be faster than lightning and THAT was shown in the manga.
Originally posted by carver9
The anime is just as cannon as the manga since again, Akira gave them as much rights to Goku as he does but we know why you dont want to accept it as cannon facts.
Wrong. The manga is the original source, and the anime is simply an adaptation. They're even remaking it and that scene was cut. Not to mention in this case the manga specifically contradicts it. The manga was written directly by Toriyama, and the anime fillers weren't.
Why are you ignoring the material that was written directly by Toriyama in favor of the material written by anime writers who were not directly instructed by him?
Another thing, it showed kid buu in one panel annihilating a galaxy and its nothing to take away from that unless, again, you ignore what was said and shown.
No, it shows a galaxy slowly fading away, and then it shows pictures of individual planets being destroyed. Not to mention that whole scene is non-canon.
1% the speed of light? Naah, they are much faster
Show a calculation to prove it. They take several minutes to reach another place on the earth even at the end of the manga.
and again, that is if you want to ignore what was shown in the anime which again is as canon as the manga but lets not forget that as a child, po po taught and trained Goku to be faster than lightning and THAT was shown in the manga.
That's called a metaphor. It's not literal. Do you believe the song "Kung - Fu Fighting" is actually talking about people fighting at relativistic speeds?
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Wrong. The manga is the original source, and the anime is simply an adaptation. They're even remaking it and that scene was cut. Not to mention in this case the manga specifically contradicts it. The manga was written directly by Toriyama, and the anime fillers weren't.Why are you ignoring the material that was written directly by Toriyama in favor of the material written by anime writers who were not directly instructed by him?
No, it shows a galaxy slowly fading away, and then it shows pictures of individual planets being destroyed. Not to mention that whole scene is non-canon.
Show a calculation to prove it. They take several minutes to reach another place on the earth even at the end of the manga.
That's called a metaphor. It's not literal. Do you believe the song "Kung - Fu Fighting" is actually talking about people fighting at relativistic speeds?
I agree, the manga is the FIRST source until he gave his rights over to a different company which used the same material but added more to it.
I agree, the Galaxy did fade away, in one panel. Buu destroying a Galaxy planet by planet, even if it took him 6 years would mean that he can fly trillions of times the speed of light since he didnt know of the Instant transmission during this time.
I never said that they can fly at the speed of light because they try to conserve too much of their energy anyway during flight but combat, yes, they can fight far above that.
But you use metaphors when its backing up your case. Do you think Superman can destroy a planet with physical might? When you answer that, show proof if your answer is yes. I remember you posting scans not to far back where Superman stated he can destroy planetoids with his fist using it as evidence that he really can destroy a planet.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Because it's not.Marvel owns the rights to the X-Men. This doesn't mean anything that the X-Men are in are all canon to each other.
I'd ask to see the scan in the manga.. but...
http://www.boxmanga.com/0/0808/06/08/3840896c.jpg
In a few YEARS he destroyed several hundred PLANETS.
not solar systems, not galaxies, planets.
On Panel.
You're full of it.
Creshosk, your posts are a waste of time...
Let the professional Endless Mike handle this and just sit back and watch.
Thanks.
Originally posted by carver9
How about you get off of my nut sack... I dont even know you... who ARE you? I have seen you replying to my post but you are a complete stranger to me.Continue to follow Creshosk around like you have been doing and STOP responding to my post.
It's hard not to reply to DBZ manchildren 🙂
Originally posted by amnesia
It's hard not to reply to DBZ manchildren 🙂
You not only reply to my DBZ comments, you reply to almost EVERYTHING that I say thats not even DBZ related.
Just because I think Goku could stomp Superman doesnt mean that DBZ is my favorite character. I vote for Hulk and people say the same thing... I vote for Gladiator and people say the same things... so which one is it? Am I just filled with fanboyism for all characters?
Originally posted by carver9
You not only reply to my DBZ comments, you reply to almost EVERYTHING that I say thats not even DBZ related.Just because I think Goku could stomp Superman doesnt mean that DBZ is my favorite character. I vote for Hulk and people say the same thing... I vote for Gladiator and people say the same things... so which one is it? Am I just filled with fanboyism for all characters?
No. I reply to your silly DBZ fanboyism.
I like gladiator and i do believe he is physically superior to superman.
I only post in hulk threads on rare occasions.
By the way mike, here is the rules... this is a ANIME respect thread... show me anywhere in the rules where it state that the manga is the cannon source and the anime isnt a source that we can use... it never states that. If anything, the mod is actually saying that we post vids, etc...
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Originally posted by amnesia
No. I reply to your silly DBZ fanboyism.I like gladiator and i do believe he is physically superior to superman.
I only post in hulk threads on rare occasions.
You just got through posting in the Superman Prime vs WBH thread to a reply that I made.
😕
I never said that you didnt like Gladiator but what I am saying is that everyone that I vote for, people call me a fanboy when all in all, I provide reasoning behind EVERYONE that I vote for, not just DBZ. People are only calling me a DBZ fan because I think Goku would stomp Superman... if this was any other character Goku was against, I wouldnt be called a fanboy.
Originally posted by carver9
You just got through posting in the Superman Prime vs WBH thread to a reply that I made.😕
I never said that you didnt like Gladiator but what I am saying is that everyone that I vote for, people call me a fanboy when all in all, I provide reasoning behind EVERYONE that I vote for, not just DBZ. People are only calling me a DBZ fan because I think Goku would stomp Superman... if this was any other character Goku was against, I wouldnt be called a fanboy.
h1a8 is a superman fanboy, he gets ridiculed too.
