Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
While we're on the topic, did Logan fail to cut Wonder Man? I'm not %100 certain due to the shitty art but that might have happened.And Skrank? Thor tried to reason with him. Wolverine attacked and was O-W-N-E-D! By Wonder Man of all people! 🙁
I wonder what's wrong with Simon. He seems to be just unleashing ionic energy. Some type of overload maybe?
He is Bendis current plot device.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0sigh...
What exactly are you blathering about? I don't even know what point you're trying to insinuate here to feel any sort of indignity. His intro is rife with that also. Appropriate example: Roughouse knocked the ever-loving crap out of him in their first encounter in Wolverine vol.2 #4:Just because you can't wrap Ares up into a neat single fighting style doesn't mean he's not skilled. Far from it. Roughouse not being able to beat Wolverine anymore has nothign to do with whether Ares takes him.
Taking Wolverine's entire history and Ares' entire history, Ares still wins.
yes rough house f#@@ed him up in their 1st encounter but the context of the story shows the damage he took.. a car crash caused by rough house then a sudden beating when he got out the car punched in the back of the head getting up just to have it happen again.. plus it was also a 90 tonner with classic logan with a mild more tame healing factor.. no shame in this and it shouldnt be interchangeable with ares thinking he should be able to do the same b/c from what we saw from this example ares 70 ton strength shouldnt be able to stagger or ko logan... sent him flying sure but not ko him or daze him although i like to point out logan wasnt ko'ed he was jsut knocked down on the floor he was still conscious and thinking clearly but just hurting badly
^ Wolverine clearly can't take car crashes even with his physique, healing factor and adamantium skeleton. Clearly. Who's side are you on, exactly?
And lulz at the "lesser-healing-factor-back-in-the-days" excuse. I was under the impression that you were making the argument that Wolverine was much more formidable back then. Bit of disjunction here when you go from excusing a performance in a current fight by protesting "this isn't the Wolverine of old who was more formidable than current nerfed Wolverine" to excusing a performance in an old fight by protesting "this isn't the Wolverine of now who's healing factor is more formidable than way back then."
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Thor got dropped by a gut check, Wolverine got dropped by a face exploding super punch! 😈It looked to me like Wolverine managed to stab him with his right arm... but Simon is back to being pure Ionic energy and it didn't do jack shit.
I'd actually argue that the Thor punch looked more powerful. More ionic energy was being released and everything. Besides, the Thor punch made this huge "BOOM" while the Wolverine punch made this tiny "FRABOOM!" My logic is infallible.
http://www.imagebam.com/image/d3589185636772
http://www.imagebam.com/image/9533c885636779
It looked like Wolverine tried and failed to stab him. No shame in it. Wonder Man was intended to be an invulnerable like character.
sigh.. wolverine was more formidble back then, than he is now. i dont understand what you think i am saying. i dont agree how logan has bn written in the last decade i think he is a joke.
are there inconsistencies early in his career, yes. but, it wasnt that bad or that far fetch..
now its like a yoyo ups and down and massive difference at the lvl of consistency.. between the high or the low,,,
and a car crash instt going to ko logan but it would be a shock a second or two to recover and a 90 tonner beating him mercilessly while he is trying to figure what is happening would tax his healing factor if he Rough house doesnt let up and allows him to recover..
he has taken more powerful single attacks well above 100+ strength lvl but that doesnt mean an accumulated 90 ton damage cant equal or surpass his ability to cope or heal...
if i recall logan was hit by a stealth plane it hurt he recovered almost instantly and kept on fighting in a slash claw fight.. the damage is more then a car crash but it is just one single attack which his body could compensate that does not mean his car crash instant is inconsistent with his power or durability.. the inconsistency is would be more around the one single 70 ton punch ko'ing him.. not a 100 + tonner doing it the gap is to large to be viewed as being logical.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'd actually argue that the Thor punch looked more powerful. More ionic energy was being released and everything. Besides, the Thor punch made this huge "BOOM" while the Wolverine punch made this tiny "FRABOOM!" My logic is infallible.http://www.imagebam.com/image/d3589185636772
http://www.imagebam.com/image/9533c885636779It looked like Wolverine tried and failed to stab him. No shame in it. Wonder Man was intended to be an invulnerable like character.
Hehe 😆
The isolated patch of Ionic Energy radiating from a center area directly under Wolverine's right hand claws, seems to indicate that there was at least some partial penetration. /shrug
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
sigh.. wolverine was more formidble back then, than he is now. i dont understand what you think i am saying. i dont agree how logan has bn written in the last decade i think he is a joke.are there inconsistencies early in his career, yes. but, it wasnt that bad or that far fetch..
now its like a yoyo ups and down and massive difference at the lvl of consistency.. between the high or the low,,,
an a car crash sint going to ko logan but it would be a shock a second or two to recover and a 90 tonner beating him mercilessly while he is trying to figure what is happening would tax his healing factor if he Rough house doesnt let up and allows him to recover..
he has taken more powerful single attacks well above 100+ strength lvl but that doesnt mean an accumulated 90 ton damage cant equal or surpass his ability to cope or heal...
if i recall logan was hit by a stealth plane it hurt he recovered almost instantly and kept on fighting in a slash claw fight.. the damage is more then a car crash but it is just one single attack which his body could compensate that does not mean his car crash instant is inconsistent with his power or durability.. the inconsistency is would be more around the one single 70 ton punch ko'ing him.. not a 100 + tonner doing it the gap is to large to be viewed as being logical.
AND NOW YOU KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO LOVE THOR`THEEND.JPG
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
sigh.. wolverine was more formidble back then, than he is now. i dont understand what you think i am saying. i dont agree how logan has bn written in the last decade i think he is a joke.are there inconsistencies early in his career, yes. but, it wasnt that bad or that far fetch..
now its like a yoyo ups and down and massive difference at the lvl of consistency.. between the high or the low,,,
an a car crash sint going to ko logan but it would be a shock a second or two to recover and a 90 tonner beating him mercilessly while he is trying to figure what is happening would tax his healing factor if he Rough house doesnt let up and allows him to recover..
he has taken more powerful single attacks well above 100+ strength lvl but that doesnt mean an accumulated 90 ton damage cant equal or surpass his ability to cope or heal...
if i recall logan was hit by a stealth plane it hurt he recovered almost instantly and kept on fighting in a slash claw fight.. the damage is more then a car crash but it is just one single attack which his body could compensate that does not mean his car crash instant is inconsistent with his power or durability.. the inconsistency is would be more around the one single 70 ton punch ko'ing him.. not a 100 + tonner doing it the gap is to large to be viewed as being logical.
If you ignore Wolverine: Origins, like most people do, then Wolverine heals as fast (if not faster) now as he ever has...
😕
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Hehe 😆The isolated patch of Ionic Energy radiating from a center area directly under Wolverine's right hand claws, seems to indicate that there was at least some partial penetration. /shrug
Well, Wonder Man was radiating bursts of Ionic Energy. To each his own I guess.
Originally posted by amnesiai am a massive thor and wolverine fan and i sould be foaming at the mouth just from seeing what the writer had simon doing to my two favorite guys in the same pages two boot.. but, i learn not to care nor purchase marvel crap anymore only in E books or collected older works but i dont support modern writers or comics that is including the garbage that has become wolverine minus some good well written one shots or mini's not series just the 4 issues mini's anything else and its just a marketing scam and crappy writing
AND NOW YOU KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO LOVE THOR`THEEND.JPG
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Regardless, even if it happened it was completely ineffective. Simon is back at peak form right now... if slightly insane.
Simon is due for an ass kicking from Thor.
Simon is extremely lucky that Thor is very level headed. Especially currently. Back in the day Thor would have beat the shit out of him for that kind of insolence.
You know, from the amounts of sucker punches Simon has landed on Thor, you'd think he'd learn to not keep his defenses down around him.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Simon is due for an ass kicking from Thor.Simon is extremely lucky that Thor is very level headed. Especially currently. Back in the day Thor would have beat the shit out of him for that kind of insolence.
You know, from the amounts of sucker punches Simon has landed on Thor, you'd think he'd learn to not keep his defenses down around him.
We can only hope.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Simon is due for an ass kicking from Thor.Simon is extremely lucky that Thor is very level headed. Especially currently. Back in the day Thor would have beat the shit out of him for that kind of insolence.
You know, from the amounts of sucker punches Simon has landed on Thor, you'd think he'd learn to not keep his defenses down around him.
>Thor keep his defenses
lulz, always getting sucker punched by Hercules... ALWAYS.
Originally posted by Wild ShadowI don't understand what you think you are saying because there's disjunction with every new statement you make when you try to reconcile the inconsistencies I'm poking at.
sigh.. wolverine was more formidble back then, than he is now. i dont understand what you think i am saying. i dont agree how logan has bn written in the last decade i think he is a joke.are there inconsistencies early in his career, yes. but, it wasnt that bad or that far fetch..
now its like a yoyo ups and down and massive difference at the lvl of consistency.. between the high or the low,,,
This vast chasm you're insisting on between Wolverine's low feats and his high feats is something that every comic character has. Wolverine's not special in this regard.
Originally posted by Wild ShadowYou mean the car crash that didn't even hurt Tyger Tyger? K. And this case you're building that "quick successive blunt force damage can actually defeat Wolverine" is something I agree with. You're preaching to the choir.
and a car crash instt going to ko logan but it would be a shock a second or two to recover and a 90 tonner beating him mercilessly while he is trying to figure what is happening would tax his healing factor if he Rough house doesnt let up and allows him to recover..he has taken more powerful single attacks well above 100+ strength lvl but that doesnt mean an accumulated 90 ton damage cant equal or surpass his ability to cope or heal...
if i recall logan was hit by a stealth plane it hurt he recovered almost instantly and kept on fighting in a slash claw fight.. the damage is more then a car crash but it is just one single attack which his body could compensate that does not mean his car crash instant is inconsistent with his power or durability.. the inconsistency is would be more around the one single 70 ton punch ko'ing him.. not a 100 + tonner doing it the gap is to large to be viewed as being logical.
How a car crash changes that equation drastically -- especially when you're dealing with comic characters of this strength scale -- is what I'm missing here.
