Ares (No Weapons) vs Wolverine (No Claws)

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my bullets shoots guns

Originally posted by Battlehammer
can go full auto? there to my knowledge arnt any pistols during ww2 that could shoot fully automatic and any gun from that date would very very iffy combat wise compared to todays weapondry.
Its called the Mauser C-96 pistol.Its a pistol that the nazis(particularly the Waffen SS that holds 20 bullets,is pretty dang accurate,and can go full auto.It has a range of 200 yards,Ammo type of 7.63x25 MM,and a muzzle velocity of 1575 ft per sec.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
b/c he is bucky and not steve
👆

Ones caps rule is not anothers.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
b/c he is bucky and not steve

I know but it still makes no senses, he did it to honor steve and wish to keep the legacy alive, how does running around with a load pistol and shooting common thugs with it honor capt? wouldent that do the opposite?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
not really it seems to make no senses that bucky would walk around with a loaded gun from ww2, and willing to shoot common thugs with it while running around being captain america. that does not seem strange to you?

Do you honestly think Bendis puts this much thought into this shit?

Bendis even highlights the fact that Bucky uses guns. I believe this was during Siege.

german ingenuity ftw WW2 era weapons can be just as effective as some modern weapons.. example of ww2 wpn is: ak47

the pistol i have to look into it but pretty sure it was the best of its time and can still hold its own today

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Its called the Mauser C-96 pistol.Its a pistol that the nazis(particularly the Waffen SS that holds 20 bullets,is pretty dang accurate,and can go full auto.It has a range of 200 yards,Ammo type of 7.63x25 MM,and a muzzle velocity of 1575 ft per sec. 👆

Ones caps rule is not anothers.


nd it not that accurate compared with to days guns, also it semi automatic (which is pretty much the same thing now I think about it)

again he became capt to honor capt memory and even went off to attack punisher becuase punisher was not honoring capt memory running around trying to be a gun tooting capt........so that would make him a hypocrite......

he can honor cap by striving to be a hero and killing only when needed.. cap has killed no reason this cap would do no different

Why is Bucky wielding guns being addressed as if it were a point of contention?

Bucky uses guns. Those guns have bullets. He shoots people.

Bucky shot Ares, three times, point blank. It was completely ineffective.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Do you honestly think Bendis puts this much thought into this shit?

Bendis even highlights the fact that Bucky uses guns. I believe this was during Siege.


I would hope so though that may be wishful thinking.

pretty much he made bucky a hypocrite and has yet to explain how he can simply shoot common thugs with a gun like it no big deal, also whats even worse is how everyones elses including steve is completely cool with it.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
nd it not that accurate compared with to days guns, also it semi automatic (which is pretty much the same thing now I think about it)

again he became capt to honor capt memory and even went off to attack punisher becuase punisher was not honoring capt memory running around trying to be a gun tooting capt........so that would make him a hypocrite......

Actually is it accurate even by todays standards.No it can go fully automatic not just semi.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Why is Bucky wielding guns being addressed as if it were a point of contention?

Bucky uses guns. Those guns have bullets. He shoots people.

Bucky shot Ares, three times, point blank. It was completely ineffective.


becuase I at first thought perhaps it was not bullets but taser or some such, but that was clearly wrong, it simply inconsistencylholes in bendis writing.

this threads pretty pointless I mean it pritty straight forward that ares wins this handily if not even time. It boarder line spite if not spite thread, so I honestly rather debate the gun thing.

yea and ares has been dropped bu machine gun and hand gun firer before, also been implied he wears armor inorder to protect him self form gun firer in not mistaken. Ares aint the most consistent character. though his piercing durability is also just as irrelevent to this thread as bucky firer arm.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Actually is it accurate even by todays standards.No it can go fully automatic not just semi.

look at my edit it the same thing.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
he can honor cap by striving to be a hero and killing only when needed.. cap has killed no reason this cap would do no different

capt kills during war time, thats very veyr differnet.

how does killing random thugs help to honor capt? capt tried to take punisher down for just that.

bucky tried to kill punisher for that.......

it completely hypocritical and bad writing.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I would hope so though that may be wishful thinking.

pretty much he made bucky a hypocrite and has yet to explain how he can simply shoot common thugs with a gun like it no big deal, also whats even worse is how everyones elses including steve is completely cool with it.

Once again, it's Bendis.

He changes power levels, personalities, shit, even the identities of characters *cough* Ronin *cough* on the fly.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I would hope so though that may be wishful thinking.

pretty much he made bucky a hypocrite and has yet to explain how he can simply shoot common thugs with a gun like it no big deal, also whats even worse is how everyones elses including steve is completely cool with it.

http://a.imagehost.org/view/0480/Captain_America_026-27

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Once again, it's Bendis.

true, I was giving him to much credit, thought he was better then this after his capt run.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
http://a.imagehost.org/view/0480/Captain_America_026-27

again that is not the same thing, and does not mean him going aorund shooting people is ok. also that happen right after steve death.......

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Once again, it's Bendis.

He changes power levels, personalities, shit, even the identities of characters *cough* Ronin *cough* on the fly.


wait how did he change the identity of ronin?

though I agree with the rest I simply gave him to much credit.

when he shot the thugs he made sure they were none life threatening injuries he did more then what is standard police procedure which is shoot to kill..

Originally posted by Battlehammer
becuase I at first thought perhaps it was not bullets but taser or some such, but that was clearly wrong, it simply inconsistencylholes in bendis writing.

this threads pretty pointless I mean it pritty straight forward that ares wins this handily if not even time. It boarder line spite if not spite thread, so I honestly rather debate the gun thing.

yea and ares has been dropped bu machine gun and hand gun firer before, also been implied he wears armor inorder to protect him self form gun firer in not mistaken. Ares aint the most consistent character. though his piercing durability is also just as irrelevent to this thread as bucky firer arm.

That happened once during his mini and that was due to him not being in combat for a very long time. The pain stunned him for a second.

Oeming wrote him as a more warrior based character. He was far from invulnerable, and it was will power/toughness/badassery that kept him going.

Currently his bullet proof. He can tank everything from very large missiles at point blank range to multiple grenades in his face unharmed.

I don't want him being nigh invulnerable personally. I liked Oeming's angle better.

It's why I dislike the current take on Wolverine. Tanking Nuclear Weapons? Seriously, that shit has gotten out of hand.