Originally posted by byrdgang21
Super Perfect Cell vs Amazob/c
1 is an android w/ all JLA members & 1 is an android w/ all the Z Warriors powers.
Z fighters>>> JLA. The only difference is, Amazo can look and copy but I cant picture him using his speed in the same fashion cell can. I can see amazo getting his head ripped off again like Black Adam did to him.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
By Buu saga, non-super-saying Goku struggled with 40 tons IIRC. Would put Nappa at mid.Edit: Yes. 😐 Also, singular match ups do not a tier make.
Superman struggled to stop a ship. Thor struggled to stop a plane. Its a one time showing. We know Superman can lift a ship with one hand. With know thor can throw a plane in space. Again, if we go by just the one showing (even though there are plenty) of Goku punching Frieza through two mountains, that put him over the 100 ton range.
Originally posted by carver9those are different feats, you cant just stop a ship or you risk killing the people inside or destroying the ship itself (it would be like a car smashing into a tree)
Superman struggled to stop a ship. Thor struggled to stop a plane. Its a one time showing. We know Superman can lift a ship with one hand. With know thor can throw a plane in space. Again, if we go by just the one showing (even though there are plenty) of Goku punching Frieza through two mountains, that put him over the 100 ton range.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Just saw it.Be patient.Yah he could give him a fight.Nappa might even beat him.But thats about the strongest person he is beating.
So you give a nod to fat buu vs. void?
1st thing Ironman isnt hitting Nappa at all; we have showings of Ironman struggling to hit spiderman, Cap, etc,,, and that isnt a low showing since it is consistent. Then we have showings of Namor easily ripping through Ironman who doesnt have the speed feat or the power Nappa has. I know for a fact Ironman isnt taking any of Nappas blast. I know for a fact Iron man cant perform the feats that Nappa has, not even close.
And how is Ironman beating Nappa when he cant beat someone that is thousands of times more weaker than nappa.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fGdq5W499c
How is Ironman beating this Goku? Someone that withstood nukes and punches that sent him through walls and someone that has untouchable speed.
Yeah, I agree with you, that buu vs void fight would be cool but it would be undecided since neither of them can be ko or killed.
Originally posted by Trackz
those are different feats, you cant just stop a ship or you risk killing the people inside or destroying the ship itself (it would be like a car smashing into a tree)
It was brainiacs ship and it took 3 kryptonians to stop it and they failed.
http://www.imagebam.com/image/ff013278609532/
Ms. Marvel could have stopped that ship, since, well, she stopped a speeding hellicarrier that is MUCH more bigger than that.
Originally posted by carver9Comics suffer from "Depending on the writer".
It was brainiacs ship and it took 3 kryptonians to stop it and they failed.http://www.imagebam.com/image/ff013278609532/
Ms. Marvel could have stopped that ship, since, well, she stopped a speeding hellicarrier that is MUCH more bigger than that.
DBZ doesn't.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Comics suffer from "Depending on the writer".DBZ doesn't.
What are you talking about? EVERY comic have low showings, it is just how it is. Goku as a child moved a rock that is more than 40 tons so with that said you are basically saying that either kid Goku is stronger than adult Goku or the more powerful you are the less stronger you are. It is just how it is, the same person that wrote that story also had Superman aiding in moving a moon. How can you go from assisting in moving a moon from struggling to stop a ship? LOW SHOWING.
Again, Goku punching Frieza through two mountains is above a 100 ton feat. I have yet to see Thor, Wonderman, Colossus, perform a punching feat like that.
Originally posted by carver9
What are you talking about? EVERY comic have low showings, it is just how it is. Goku as a child moved a rock that is more than 40 tons so with that said you are basically saying that either kid Goku is stronger than adult Goku or the more powerful you are the less stronger you are. It is just how it is, the same person that wrote that story also had Superman aiding in moving a moon. How can you go from assisting in moving a moon from struggling to stop a ship? LOW SHOWING.Again, Goku punching Frieza through two mountains is above a 100 ton feat. I have yet to see Thor, Wonderman, Colossus, perform a punching feat like that.
Which is more valid, the most recent feats and showings and statements, or the ones from ten years earlier in the series?
Also, if you mean when Goku was super-saiyan, I'm talking about unamped Goku, and if not, it's entirely probably, the artists weren't considering a specific strength level for that feat, or even just that later on Akira decided and had a character specificly state: 40 tons.
Originally posted by carver9again, they have to apply enough force, if superman completely halted himself, he would break through the hull
It was brainiacs ship and it took 3 kryptonians to stop it and they failed.http://www.imagebam.com/image/ff013278609532/
Ms. Marvel could have stopped that ship, since, well, she stopped a speeding hellicarrier that is MUCH more bigger than that.
Originally posted by The Scenariothor doesn't, and tactile telekinesis doesn't prevent 100%, he can clearly be seen denting the ship, tactile telekinesis or not, if superman stood head on in front of the ship, no matter how strong he is, he'd pass right through the hull.
I thought Superman had Tactile Telekinesis or something to prevent that?