WWH vs Despero

Originally posted by lightyeargee
I'm sorry that people having a different persepctive means we lost the plot. I didn't lose any plot. I lost where the Hulk defeated a dog pile of top heralds or beat any trans tiered beings.

wwh was about the hulk getting retribution for the planet hulk incident, that's it. he was madder than ever and wanted revenge, the characters he's beaten in the past as savage hulk fought him again and he beat them in quicker succession all the while holding back far more than usual.

"worldbreaker mode" is hulk going into 6th gear, the more despero pushes him in this no PIS environment, earlier hulk rocks despero's skull bones like he did several american states with a meager step

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the "jla dogpile" thing, don't put too much stock into that cause that was once of the worst battle tactics iv'e ever witnessed. none of the team thought anything through, but the hilarity of it all is the characters that fought against green scar get a ton of flack on the forum for actually using tactics whereas the jla fought like a rugby team.

think about what you're trying to pass of as a competent jla moment, hopefully despero was messing with their minds cause...damn

Originally posted by cdtm
Hulk being uber, I can accept.

But Reed and Strange, among others, were acting pretty stupidly..

Marvel usually does the "uber monster" better then DC does, but sometimes it handicaps other characters to do it..

For example, Blood and Thunder Thor was shitstomping basically everyone. He finally comes across Thanos, and starts overpowering him. So Thanos simply gives up the direct approach, and goes for an experimental space gun.

Take someone with Stranges capabilities, and there had to be many, many ways he could have dealt with Hulk without beating him down or dealing with his strength. Reed and Stark likely had options as well...

Reed did job a bit but that's the extent of plot induced stupidity in World War Hulk. Reed can solve almost all the problems happening in Marvel by himself. Shit, even the characters themselves realize how hax Reed is. Osborn used Reed to threaten Void into obedience. Molecule Man tried to hide because he feared Reed. It's understandable that Pak didn't have Reed pull out some kind of Galactus destroying weapon from under his pillow to finish off Green Scar.

It was made perfectly clear that Doctor Strange using his magic could kill the Hulk or could transport him somewhere else etc. He just didn't do so because he realized that the Hulk is their problem, and they were in the wrong. It was up to them to solve it. If they sent him away, he'd just return angrier and stronger.

Originally posted by cdtm
He did hold up the Rock of Eternity..

Bam! right there. ROE has been said to weigh infinity and beyond!

Originally posted by lightyeargee
The majority of the Earth's mass is it's center.

It's still important to note. All of the planets water gone? A lot of mass there.

despero easy. hes defeated characters that the same time who imo could all defeat wwh individually.

Originally posted by r0nm0n88
despero easy. hes defeated characters that the same time who imo could all defeat wwh individually.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It's still important to note. All of the planets water gone? A lot of mass there.

^ huh?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ huh?

Originally posted by lightyeargee
It isn't the water that is the mass in orbit. It's the core against the sun's core against the other planets cores that maintain the orbit of any heavenly body. Lots more power to simply hold the orbit of even the core.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ huh?

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
whats there to huh about

hes basically saying gravitational pull > water mass

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
hes basically saying gravitational pull > water mass

which is a stupid ass thing to say

his breakdown was even more weird

how so?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
which is a stupid ass thing to say

LOL @ science in a Despero vs Hulk thread.

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
how so?

but the core thing was wrong, you count the entire celestial object down to the atmosphere

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enough of the tangent

despro is indeed quite strong, but thinking that his strength alone is enough to beat the hulk is gonna take more than just using one of the jla's worse moments

Good thing Despero has more than Strength going for him. Unlike the Hulk.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
the entire mass of an object corresponds to it's gravity well, less mass, less influence.

but the core thing was wrong, you count the entire celestial object down to the atmosphere

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enough of the tangent

despro is indeed quite strong, but thinking that his strength alone is enough to beat the hulk is gonna take more than just using one of the jla's worse moments

Originally posted by Stoic
Where do you get the idea that Despero is superior to WWhulk physically? How can you prove that Despero can mind rape WWHulk? Onslaught was unable to lock down the Hulk because of rage issues, WWHulk was written to have outraged the Onslaught busting Hulk while retaining his mental faculties... hey these are comics men fly, and women throw trucks, so anything is possible. My point is that I have never seen a Despero strength feat that was greater than WWHulks strength feat on Sakaar.

Lets take this one at a time.

Where do you get the idea that Despero is superior to WWhulk physically?

Despero's complete annihilation of Superman, Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, and Power Girl almost simultaneously is proof of Despero's physical superiority to WWH.

Despero casually smacking around Lobo doesn't hurt either.

How can you prove that Despero can mind rape WWHulk?

Despero's effectiveness in psionically attacking J'onn with a single blast is indicative of his power. Furthermore, Despero's success in entering the mind of Starro, a being of almost incomprehensible psionic power speaks to his abilities.