WWH vs Despero

Started by lightyeargee20 pages

Originally posted by Stoic
I guess you've forgotton about Storm and The Human Torches Super Nova, Lightening Blizt bomb? I have a hard time believing that they were holding their punches, what about his battle with the X teams? Kitty phased him into the ground worried that it would cripple him, or worse kill him?
Not one of Hulk's Friends had the power of Despero. No one WWH fought was vastly superior to 6 high tier heralds.The only way I could see WWH beating Despero is if he matched Thanos or something. He never did anything close to that. Oh and Barda was strong enough to hold a continents weight and she got beaten by WW. So hulk shifting the eastern seaboard isn't that impressive.

The Hulk not only shifted the continent, he held an entire planet together, there is a difference here. Whereas it took the combined efforts of Superman, Wonder Woman, and J'onn to move a planet.

What is Despero's greatest strength feat? The Beyonder said that the Hulk has no upper limit to his strength, does Despero have an upper limit? In none of WWHulks fights did he once stop growing in power.

Originally posted by Stoic
The Hulk not only shifted the continent, he held an entire planet together, there is a difference here. Whereas it took the combined efforts of Superman, Wonder Woman, and J'onn to move a planet.

What is Despero's greatest strength feat? The Beyonder said that the Hulk has no upper limit to his strength, does Despero have an upper limit? In none of WWHulks fights did he once stop growing in power.

No. Superman,MM, and WW Held the earth's orbit. Big difference and lots more power to sustain steady orbit. It only takes one big blast of power to knock a planet out of orbit.The beyonder can say what he wants, do you think Hulk could beat Galactus in a fist fight? No. So get that no limit stuff out of here. Despero is so far beyond Hulk in strength it's not funny. Do you think Hulk could beat Tyrant in a boxing match? Tyrant fought less heralds than Fespero did and Tyrant would beat the fvck out of Hulk. Fist only. Same as Despero. Infinite amping be damned. When someone is 20 times stronger than you, you'd be down before you an get strong enuff to fight back.

I just read the first sentence of your post, so:

In that scene where Superman, Diana and John move the planet, all of the planet's water was absent.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I just read the first sentence of your post, so:

In that scene where Superman, Diana and John move the planet, all of the planet's water was absent.

The majority of the Earth's mass is it's center.

Originally posted by Stoic
The Hulk not only shifted the continent, he held an entire planet together, there is a difference here. Whereas it took the combined efforts of Superman, Wonder Woman, and J'onn to move a planet.

What is Despero's greatest strength feat? The Beyonder said that the Hulk has no upper limit to his strength, does Despero have an upper limit? In none of WWHulks fights did he once stop growing in power.

He picked up the rock of Eternity if my memory serves me correct. It seems you are saying Hulk is vastly stronger than J'onn, Wonder Woman and Superman which would be wrong. Its been stated that Superman could one shot planets 😐

Originally posted by lightyeargee
No. Superman,MM, and WW Held the earth's orbit. Big difference and lots more power to sustain steady orbit. It only takes one big blast of power to knock a planet out of orbit.The beyonder can say what he wants, do you think Hulk could beat Galactus in a fist fight? No. So get that no limit stuff out of here. Despero is so far beyond Hulk in strength it's not funny. Do you think Hulk could beat Tyrant in a boxing match? Tyrant fought less heralds than Fespero did and Tyrant would beat the fvck out of Hulk. Fist only. Same as Despero. Infinite amping be damned. When someone is 20 times stronger than you, you'd be down before you an get strong enuff to fight back.

What are you basing this on? What is Despero's greates strength feat? Are we to ignore what's written in comics to suit our own arguements or dislikes for a particular character? Galactus is another story, and should not be brought into this discussion because he would cook Despero as well... you aren't comparing Tyrant to Despero are you, he should be left out of this as well. You need only to prove one thing. Where do you get the idea that Despero is superior to WWhulk physically? How can you prove that Despero can mind rape WWHulk? Onslaught was unable to lock down the Hulk because of rage issues, WWHulk was written to have outraged the Onslaught busting Hulk while retaining his mental faculties... hey these are comics men fly, and women throw trucks, so anything is possible. My point is that I have never seen a Despero strength feat that was greater than WWHulks strength feat on Sakaar.

Why does Despero need strength feats his striking power is indisputable thats like asking what's thanos' greatest strength feat it doesn't matter

Originally posted by iceman24567
Why does Despero need strength feats his striking power is indisputable thats like asking what's thanos' greatest strength feat it doesn't matter

The Rock of Eternity is big, but not planet big. The Hulks striking power is also indisputable, after all a "weaker version" punched through a dimensional barrier.

No dimension punching is bullshit how about him easily KOing herald level beings left and right?

Why does Despero need a strength feat when Thanos is giving so much clout simply on his back handing a few heralds of lower caliber than the Dog pile that Despero overpowered.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
For just about every advantage Despero has, you can rightly name a proven attribute for WWH that blunts said advantage. The only thing I'm seeing here is that people give Despero the absolute benefit of the doubt on his beatdowns given to characters that are rife with inverse ninja law -- especially those having to do with his pure physicality. And yet, with WWH who literally was the strongest incarnation of any Hulk ever -- and spent an entire year building up his motivations, unparalleled anger, and vengeance -- people almost unilaterally whine about supposed jobbing and wank.

He was amped to that level specifically. That's his specific powerset, "Madder Hulk gets, stronger Hulk gets." Why is it so hard to accept? Get over it, people.

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Originally posted by iceman24567
No dimension punching is bullshit how about him easily KOing herald level beings left and right?

That would depend entirely on the Herald level beings body armor, do you think that he could ko Juggernaut? Magog? Doomsday? Let's not forget one simple thing here WWHulk's natural body armor became sterner as he became stronger as Wolverine pointed out.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
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I'm sorry that people having a different persepctive means we lost the plot. I didn't lose any plot. I lost where the Hulk defeated a dog pile of top heralds or beat any trans tiered beings.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
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Exactly.

Originally posted by Stoic
That would depend entirely on the Herald level beings body armor, do you think that he could ko Juggernaut? Magog? Doomsday? Let's not forget one simple thing here WWHulk's natural body armor became sterner as he became stronger as Wolverine pointed out.
Those Herald level beings have legit durability and you know this. Either way Hulks durability wasn't beyond what Despero could dish out not only that but his other abilities will be in play.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Why does Despero need a strength feat when Thanos is giving so much clout simply on his back handing a few heralds of lower caliber than the Dog pile that Despero overpowered.

He did hold up the Rock of Eternity..

Originally posted by iceman24567
Those Herald level beings have legit durability and you know this. Either way Hulks durability wasn't beyond what Despero could dish out not only that but his other abilities will be in play.

The problem here is that WWHulk would not only heal from Despero's attacks, but he would exceed Despero's strength level if we are not ignoring the Hulks power set.

The longer the battle would last the more it would favor WWHulk. As I pointed out it only 10 seconds for him to become strong enough to not only shift a continental plate but also to hold the entire planet together. As I stated, if we are going with WWHulks power set, he will only increase in power output as the battle rages, which will also increase his damage soak as Wolverine pointed out.

Originally posted by Stoic
The problem here is that WWHulk would not only heal from Despero's attacks, but he would exceed Despero's strength level if we are not ignoring the Hulks power set.

The longer the battle would last the more it would favor WWHulk. As I pointed out it only 10 seconds for him to become strong enough to not only shift a continental plate but also to hold the entire planet together. As I stated, if we are going with WWHulks power set, he will only increase in power output as the battle rages, which will also increase his damage soak as Wolverine pointed out.

Well we have another problem decapitation is just a minor annoyance for Despero and if we are not ignoring Hulks fights during WWH we know being hit has an effect on him look what Herc did to him. Also as i stated Despero has other powers to fall back on unless you want to ignore them too.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
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Hulk being uber, I can accept.

But Reed and Strange, among others, were acting pretty stupidly..

Marvel usually does the "uber monster" better then DC does, but sometimes it handicaps other characters to do it..

For example, Blood and Thunder Thor was shitstomping basically everyone. He finally comes across Thanos, and starts overpowering him. So Thanos simply gives up the direct approach, and goes for an experimental space gun.

Take someone with Stranges capabilities, and there had to be many, many ways he could have dealt with Hulk without beating him down or dealing with his strength. Reed and Stark likely had options as well...