WWH vs Despero

Originally posted by lightyeargee
Takion was stated to be more powerful than Highfather. Since it was stated, it just has to be true.

That is different. It was savage hulk that was sent to planet sakaar. Savage Hulk was in a rage because 1st he was abandoned to a planet where he didnt know anyone and then he began loving people on that planet and all of them was KILLED and presumed killed in WWH mind by the people of earth. During all of this, he was shot by nukes that also amped his strength and durability.

Again, he doesnt have to lift infinite mass during every amp just to prove he is>>>Savage Hulk. That is just stupid.

Originally posted by carver9
That is different. It was savage hulk that was sent to planet sakaar. Savage Hulk was in a rage because 1st he was abandoned to a planet where he didnt know anyone and then he began loving people on that planet and all of them was KILLED and presumed killed in WWH mind by the people of earth. During all of this, he was shot by nukes that also amped his strength and durability.

Again, he doesnt have to lift infinite mass during every amp just to prove he is>>>Savage Hulk. That is just stupid.

OMG! It was stated! It HAS to be true.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
OMG! It was stated! It HAS to be true.

I think context makes a difference..

Take Spectre inferring Kyle could have altered history, undoing all the damage Parallax did.

Because Kyle didn't actually do this, do we assume Spectre didn't know what he was talking about?

Or, what about Blue Beetles Scarab giving options that could level a continent. Never actually happens, but would the Scarab lie or overestimate it's own capabilities?

Or the claims of the yellow power battery being capable of wiping out a galaxy? Also didn't happen, since it was contained in a small location.

On the other hand, there's also Superman claiming Massacre hits harder then Doomsday, which was clearly bs...

Batman said Diana is the best fighter in the world. It must be true.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Batman said Diana is the best fighter in the world. It must be true.

You never know. She has the experience.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
You never know. She has the experience.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Herc was holding back too and he still dropped him what do you think Despero will do? 😐

Originally posted by BattleMage
Lose!

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Yeah. Sure looked limitless when he was getting his face scratched by Vixen's "kitty" power. ermm Yet, people are making the argument that Despero's physicality alone stomps WWH. And that's the problem I've picked up on.

The only problem you've picked up on is WWH getting knocked senseless by Despero.

Despero displayed more than enough strength and speed to KO WWH in V&V.

They lock up the same way WWH did with Sentry and he gets washed.

I don't have to qualify it by any means.

The amp won't do him any good when Despero is throwing blows that level high heralds.

2. When WWH regains consciousness- He loses AGAIN through psionic attack.

Proof

Martian Manhunter's psychic defenses> WWH

Starro's psychic defenses> WWH and everyone else in the MU

Despero successfully breached BOTH.😎
Don't make me call you and that OTHER guy who backed down to a forum challenge. 😎

^ As far as I know, current Despero was fended off by Vixen-led loser JLA. And got his face kitty-scratched. Your blanket generalizations about his superior physicality are doubtful at best. And extremely questionable considering your continual inability to proffer scans and your unexplainable dismissal of WWH's physicality. Also, J'onn has defeated Despero mentally and Superman has resisted Despero as well. Naturally, I wholly expect you to ignore that WWH didn't actively try, yet still ended up causing Xavier severe mental feedback.

Originally posted by carver9
That is like saying Sun dip Superman is more weaker than regular Supes since Regular Supes high end feats are more impressive.

Regular Supes held up a book of infinite pages. So because sundipped Superman doesn't have a superior feat, his obviously superior power is somehow discredited?

You're all really trying to use that logic to suggest that WWH was not far more powerful than Savage Hulk? lulz

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ As far as I know, current Despero was fended off by Vixen-led loser JLA. And got his face kitty-scratched. Your blanket generalizations about his superior physicality are doubtful at best. And extremely questionable considering your continual inability to proffer scans and your unexplainable dismissal of WWH's physicality. Also, J'onn has defeated Despero mentally and Superman has resisted Despero as well. Naturally, I wholly expect you to ignore that WWH didn't actively try, yet still ended up causing Xavier severe mental feedback. Absolutely right. 👆

Regular Supes held up a book of infinite pages. So because sundipped Superman doesn't have a superior feat, his obviously superior power is somehow discredited?

You're all really trying to use that logic to suggest that WWH was not far more powerful than Savage Hulk? lulz

WOW, the people in this thread. Hilarious.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
At any time did WWH beat Six Herald level Beings at one time? He beat most of the people he fought with some kind of Plot didn't he? And Superman has been NOT able to Resist Starro. The being with Galaxies spanning TP. Despero was able to resist and pwn. Despero>>>>>>>>>>Xavier and MM. Hell, even if he can't shut Hulk all the way down, the mental bolts alone will slow Hulk. And Wasn't Xavier trying to Calm Hulk down? Despero will be doing no such thing. He will be mind blasting, mind wiping etc. Not trying to enter in and calm things down.

Its a one time high end feat. Mindless Hulk ripped through the avengers but I would still give WWH the edge. Mindless Hulk also defeated Onslaught, who in his own right is a high herald buster but I would still give WWH the edge. Stop using accusations when we have on panel proof that WWH is more powerful.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ As far as I know, current Despero was fended off by Vixen-led loser JLA. And got his face kitty-scratched. Your blanket generalizations about his superior physicality are doubtful at best. And extremely questionable considering your continual inability to proffer scans and your unexplainable dismissal of WWH's physicality. Also, J'onn has defeated Despero mentally and Superman has resisted Despero as well. Naturally, I wholly expect you to ignore that WWH didn't actively try, yet still ended up causing Xavier severe mental feedback. Absolutely right. 👆

Regular Supes held up a book of infinite pages. So because sundipped Superman doesn't have a superior feat, his obviously superior power is somehow discredited?

You're all really trying to use that logic to suggest that WWH was not far more powerful than Savage Hulk? lulz

I provided scans a few pages back.

Where are YOUR scans in defense of WWH?

To your second point.

I don't know how you agree when it undermines your own argument.

You DEMAND Despero scans( Although I already provided them) to prove his dominance; when the heralds laying at his feat should be evidence enough.

Originally posted by carver9
WOW, the people in this thread. Hilarious.

Originally posted by lightyeargee
At any time did WWH beat Six Herald level Beings at one time? He beat most of the people he fought with some kind of Plot didn't he? And Superman has been NOT able to Resist Starro. The being with Galaxies spanning TP. Despero was able to resist and pwn. Despero>>>>>>>>>>Xavier and MM. Hell, even if he can't shut Hulk all the way down, the mental bolts alone will slow Hulk. And Wasn't Xavier trying to Calm Hulk down? Despero will be doing no such thing. He will be mind blasting, mind wiping etc. Not trying to enter in and calm things down.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
I provided scans a few pages back.

Where are YOUR scans in defense of WWH?

To your second point.

I don't know how you agree when it undermines your own argument.

You DEMAND Despero scans( Although I already provided them) to prove his dominance; when the heralds laying at his feat should be evidence enough.

I'm not building an argument for WWH's physicality. I'm rebutting your attempts to undermine it with utterly atrocious logic. That only requires an analysis of your logic.

On to the second point.

No. It undermines your's. Because it points out how dumb it is to ignore WWH's obvious superiority over Savage Hulk simply because of the lack of feats. You're not going to make an argument that sundipped Superman isn't impressive and is actually weaker than regular Superman are you?

Scans of inverse ninja law at it's best? Not even current Despero? Scans, what?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
If you're deflecting and/or backing away from current Despero achieving wins via questionable physical superiority, you can feel free to think how you like on the mental angle.