Black bolt vs. Superman

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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Black Bolt is damn lucky Thor held back severely like he does against all mind controlled allies.

I've never seen that reaction from Black Bolt before. Of course one could argue that since it was Thor using Mjolnir that destroyed his antenna, there was some sort of feedback.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Can be argued?Medusa said it herself.So thor didn't beat him.The feed back beat him.And he was mind controlled so most likely he wasn't fighting to his best.

You don't understand. I'm not arguing that the feedback wasn't causing him pain. That's obvious. I'm simply stating that destroying Black Bolt's antenna in the past hasn't caused that type of reaction. I stated that an explanation for this could be that it was Thor using Mjolnir destroying it which resulted in this extreme reaction. That's all.

What do you mean Thor didn't beat him? Black Bolt was twitching on the ground while Thor was standing over him concerned about Black Bolt. Thor simply used a weakness exploitation to win. Destroying his antenna is apparently a viable tactic for Thor against Black Bolt, and it wouldn't be difficult for Thor to accomplish it a battle either.

Black Bolt certainly didn't seem to be hindered in that issue.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You don't understand. I'm not arguing that the feedback wasn't causing him pain. That's obvious. I'm simply stating that destroying Black Bolt's antenna in the past hasn't caused that type of reaction. I stated that an explanation for this could be that it was Thor using Mjolnir destroying it which resulted in this extreme reaction. That's all.

What do you mean Thor didn't beat him? Black Bolt was twitching on the ground while Thor was standing over him concerned about Black Bolt. Thor simply used a weakness exploitation to win. Destroying his antenna is apparently a viable tactic for Thor against Black Bolt, and it wouldn't be difficult for Thor to accomplish it a battle either.

Black Bolt certainly didn't seem to be hindered in that issue.

Thor knocked him down.Then he got back up and thor said stronger then ever.Then the feedback.They pretty much both hit each other once.Neither did much damage then the battle ended.I would have called it a stalemate considering no one really dealt that much damage to the other.It was just the feedback that put BB down.

I'm not saying he necessarily was but do people usually fight to his best when they are mind controlled?Having read many mind controlled fights so I wouldn't know.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
It was obviously feedback(why there was some I don't know)but thats what downed him.Not thor.It may have been caused by thor but not thor himself.

Thor knocked him down.Then he got back up and thor said stronger then ever.Then the feedback.They pretty much both hit each other once.Neither did much damage then the battle ended.I would have called it a stalemate considering no one really dealt that much damage to the other.It was just the feedback that put BB down.

I'm not saying he necessarily was but do people usually fight to his best when they are mind controlled?Having read many mind controlled fights so I wouldn't know.

And when people argue that Surfer uses Kryptonite/Red Solar Radiation to beat Superman, it's the Kryptonite/Red Solar Radiation that beats Superman and not Surfer. Surfer only causes it.

It's a weakness exploitation. It's not supposed to be clean.

I'd say Thor looked to be superior in that fight.

It depends on the situation. Sometimes characters fight the mind control causing them to hold back or have an internal conflict (It's happened to Thor before.) and so on. Some times mind control causes characters to go all out in terms of raw power. They just don't apply it right.

Black Bolt should have screamed.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
And when people argue that Surfer uses Kryptonite/Red Solar Radiation to beat Superman, it's the Kryptonite/Red Solar Radiation that beats Superman and not Surfer. Surfer only causes it.

It's a weakness exploitation. It's not supposed to be clean.

I'd say Thor looked to be superior in that fight.

It depends on the situation. Sometimes characters fight the mind control causing them to hold back or have an internal conflict (It's happened to Thor before.) and so on. Some times mind control causes characters to go all out in terms of raw power. They just don't apply it right.

Black Bolt should have screamed.

What happened was BB was amping himself then thor hit it releasing the energy and giving feedback.I still don't see that happening again.

Not to me.It looked about even.Both took pretty good hits and just kept coming.And BB didn't use a master blow or his voice.

Well obviously BB wasn't going all out but it didn't look like either had the edge.I'd call that fight a stalemate.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Yeah because its in surfers ability to do that.How often is BB overloaded with feedback?Not very often....something obviously happened just for the sake of the plot.I call PIS.

What happened was BB was amping himself then thor hit it releasing the energy and giving feedback.I still don't see that happening again.

Not to me.It looked about even.Both took pretty good hits and just kept coming.And BB didn't use a master blow or his voice.

Well obviously BB wasn't going all out but it didn't look like either had the edge.I'd call that fight a stalemate.

😂 I call P.I.S. that Thor didn't one shot him. ✅

Black Bolt has never been overloaded by a feedback. Hence why I previously reasoned that being hit by Mjolnir was what caused the overload. It's plausible enough.

Why not? Apparently all Thor has to do is destroy his antenna and the fight's over. That's a pretty simple and easy tactic for Thor.

The master blow would be an absolutely horrible move to use against Thor. It basically puts most of his energy behind a physical attack that won't do more than hurt Thor and knock him off his feet, while it would leave Black Bolt extremely drained. Unless that fanboy Jenkins retconned that as well.

A scream from Black Bolt would hurt Thor but it's not a game ending tactic. Assuming of course that Thor let's it hit him.

He didn't use his voice. It doesn't mean he wasn't applying all of his raw energy to fighting Thor.

To each his own. Either way based on that fight, Thor would defeat Black Bolt. Of course almost everybody would agree Thor would defeat Black Bolt even without reading that fight but that just makes it easier to argue for Thor.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
😂 I call P.I.S. that Thor didn't one shot him. ✅

Black Bolt has never been overloaded by a feedback. Hence why I previously reasoned that being hit by Mjolnir was what caused the overload. It's plausible enough.

Why not? Apparently all Thor has to do is destroy his antenna and the fight's over. That's a pretty simple and easy tactic for Thor.

The master blow would be an absolutely horrible move to use against Thor. It basically puts most of his energy behind a physical attack that won't do more than hurt Thor and knock him off his feet, while it would leave Black Bolt extremely drained. Unless that fanboy Jenkins retconned that as well.

A scream from Black Bolt would hurt Thor but it's not a game ending tactic. Assuming of course that Thor let's it hit him.

He didn't use his voice. It doesn't mean he wasn't applying all of his raw energy to fighting Thor.

To each his own. Either way based on that fight, Thor would defeat Black Bolt. Of course almost everybody would agree Thor would defeat Black Bolt even without reading that fight but that just makes it easier to argue for Thor.

Exactly.From my understanding thor broke the antenna and released the energies BB was amping with.The feedback KO'd him.

No only because he was amping at the time.Also you really want to say thor wins by using a tactic that was done only once and was PIS?

BB's master blow isn't KOing him but its doing a lot more then just knocking him off his feet.It would probably break a lot of his bones and put him in immense pain.

GTFO.A scream wouldn't hurt him?A scream would KO him.Thor lets it hit him?!?!Whats thor gonna do?Block sound?

You said all out.I took that as using everything hes got.

No not everyone would agree.He beats people like hulk and gladiator without using the upper limits of his voice.Most people would say thor.CIS on I'd call thor like 5.01/10
CIS off BB screams right away killing thor.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Well how often does that happen?AFAIK once.And he was mind controlled so he got hit by the feedback for the sake of the plot.

Exactly.From my understanding thor broke the antenna and released the energies BB was amping with.The feedback KO'd him.

*Insert previous Mjolnir argument*

I read it as removing his ability to control his own energy including the extra energy he was channeling to amp. The antenna was created specifically to help Black Bolt harness and control electrons. Basically to better control his own power.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No only because he was amping at the time.Also you really want to say thor wins by using a tactic that was done only once and was PIS?

Stop setting arbitrary circumstances for that tactic to be valid just because you like Black Bolt. No where was it shown that Black Bolt has to be amping for the feedback to be a viable option.

By destroying the antenna, Thor made it impossible for Black Bolt to control his own energies causing a feedback. The amping only led Thor to figuring out that Black Bolt's antenna channeled his energy. Black Bolt amps using his own power and not some excessive energy.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
BB's master blow isn't KOing him but its doing a lot more then just knocking him off his feet.It would probably break a lot of his bones and put him in immense pain.

😂

That's honestly the funniest shit I've read all day. The Master Blow would at best maybe cause Thor some pain and knock him off his feet.

Break his bones? GTFO!

Do you even know what the Master Blow is?

His used the Master Blow on the Thing and it just weakened/hurt him. His also used it against Ikaris and it didn't any more than knock him down. To be fair it stated that it was less than fully effective due to the angle.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
GTFO.A scream wouldn't hurt him?A scream would KO him.Thor lets it hit him?!?!Whats thor gonna do?Block sound?

Do you not know how to read? I said a scream would hurt Thor.

Easily debatable. Thor's tanked a lot worse than Black Bolt's scream.

Black Bolt isn't Black Canary. It isn't just sound.

And yes. Thor can create barriers around him. He can even create barriers that can turn him intangible although it's a one off thing.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
You said all out.I took that as using everything hes got.

Okay.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No not everyone would agree.He beats people like hulk and gladiator without using the upper limits of his voice.Most people would say thor.CIS on I'd call thor like 5.01/10

Care to bump a Black Bolt vs. Thor thread? I bet the vast majority would pick Thor over Black Bolt. Thankfully Thor's much more than either Hulk or Gladiator when he wants to be.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
CIS off BB screams right away killing thor.

With C.I.S. off Thor would set up a barrier that would stop the scream and go on to God Blast the shit out of Black Bolt.

No C.I.S. favors Thor a great deal more than it does Black Bolt.

And a scream from Black Bolt would not kill Thor.

Where the hell do you get this shit from? Are you really Paul Jenkins? It would make sense, your both a Sentry and a Black Bolt fanboy.

Couldnt supes just ionize the area around black bolt cutting him off from his energy source. Ive seen him use it on an oponent to cut him off from teleporting tech.

Originally posted by paisapower
Couldnt supes just ionize the area around black bolt cutting him off from his energy source. Ive seen him use it on an oponent to cut him off from teleporting tech.

Interesting tactic.

How is BB's overall durability? Would a HV attack to the speech center of the brain be possible, or is he too tough for that?

If Superman's willing to really intensify the heat vision, then why not.

However C.I.S. is on, so I doubt it's going to happen.

Originally posted by cdtm
Interesting tactic.

How is BB's overall durability? Would a HV attack to the speech center of the brain be possible, or is he too tough for that?

I dont think its near kryptonian, and Ive seen kryptonians pierce each other with heat vision.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
*Insert previous Mjolnir argument*

I read it as removing his ability to control his own energy including the extra energy he was channeling to amp. The antenna was created specifically to help Black Bolt harness and control electrons. Basically to better control his own power.

Stop setting arbitrary circumstances for that tactic to be valid just because you like Black Bolt. No where was it shown that Black Bolt has to be amping for the feedback to be a viable option.

By destroying the antenna, Thor made it impossible for Black Bolt to control his own energies causing a feedback. The amping only led Thor to figuring out that Black Bolt's antenna channeled his energy. Black Bolt amps using his own power and not some excessive energy.

😂

That's honestly the funniest shit I've read all day. The Master Blow would at best maybe cause Thor some pain and knock him off his feet.

Break his bones? GTFO!

Do you even know what the Master Blow is?

His used the Master Blow on the Thing and it just weakened/hurt him. His also used it against Ikaris and it didn't any more than knock him down. To be fair it stated that it was less than fully effective due to the angle.

Do you not know how to read? I said a scream would hurt Thor.

Easily debatable. Thor's tanked a lot worse than Black Bolt's scream.

Black Bolt isn't Black Canary. It isn't just sound.

And yes. Thor can create barriers around him. He can even create barriers that can turn him intangible although it's a one off thing.

Okay.

Care to bump a Black Bolt vs. Thor thread? I bet the vast majority would pick Thor over Black Bolt. Thankfully Thor's much more than either Hulk or Gladiator when he wants to be.

With C.I.S. off Thor would set up a barrier that would stop the scream and go on to God Blast the shit out of Black Bolt.

No C.I.S. favors Thor a great deal more than it does Black Bolt.

And a scream from Black Bolt would not kill Thor.

Where the hell do you get this shit from? Are you really Paul Jenkins? It would make sense, your both a Sentry and a Black Bolt fanboy.

Exactly.So when he was amping thor broke it and the feedback Ko'd him.

Never said it wasn't viable.But it has happened only once and it looked like very special conditions.

Yes.Your point?

So your saying Black bolts hard hit wouldn't even hurt thor?No.It would cause thor quite a bit of pain.Break a rib or two.

Show thor taking something greater then BB's scream?BB's whisper has destroyed cities.And what are those barriers gonna do besides break?

Okay

I wouldn't doubt that.Quite a few thor fans on here and they have good arguments.I just think that BB can pull more wins then you think he can.

And that barriers gonna break.Godblast takes time to charge.Time thors not gonna get from BB.
It favors him more in certain categories but BB using his full voice would be much more powerful then anything thor can dish out except the godblast.
Yes it would
No sentry really doesn't matter.Thor>sentry.But I am a black bolt fanboy.Your point?Your a thor fanboy.Your no worse then me 😈

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If Superman's willing to really intensify the heat vision, then why not.

However C.I.S. is on, so I doubt it's going to happen.

He did it to Manchester Black.

Kind of an ooc moment though, imo..

Originally posted by cdtm
He did it to Manchester Black.

Kind of an ooc moment though, imo..

He didnt realy lobotomize Black, he just told him he did.
Maybe all he needs to do is just damage it .

Originally posted by paisapower
He didnt realy lobotomize Black, he just told him he did.
Maybe all he needs to do is just damage it .

He claimed he bruised it and the effect would be temperary..

...which doesn't make sense, considering the brain doesn't heal, but that's comics for you..

Originally posted by cdtm
He claimed he bruised it and the effect would be temperary..

...which doesn't make sense, considering the brain doesn't heal, but that's comics for you..

Ya, thats what I call laser precision

Originally posted by Black bolt z
What?

Exactly.So when he was amping thor broke it and the feedback Ko'd him.

Insert the previous argument that it was Thor hitting him with Mjolnir that caused such a feedback.

😬

You agree? Black Bolt doesn't have to be amping for this to be a viable tactic for Thor.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Never said it wasn't viable.But it has happened only once and it looked like very special conditions.

Yes.Your point?

What special conditions? At best Black Bolt has to be amping for it to possible. He has used this tactic more than once and very likely to do in a fight with Thor.

My point is that Black Bolt amps using his own internal stored energies. He doesn't access any more external power from what I've seen. I don't see why he would need to be amping for the tactic Thor used to work.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
So your saying Black bolts hard hit wouldn't even hurt thor?No.It would cause thor quite a bit of pain.Break a rib or two.

I'm saying it's debatable. Which it is.

Are you really this delusional? The Thing took a master blow to the chest and nothing was broken. All it did was hurt him and he compared it to a punch from the Hulk. And apparently it's going to break Thor's bones? Ridiculous.

I was being generous when I said it would hurt Thor and knock him off his feet.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Show thor taking something greater then BB's scream?BB's whisper has destroyed cities.And what are those barriers gonna do besides break?

Thor's withstood all of Mjolnir's energy, attacks from a significantly amped Thanos, Odin and Celestials. Those forces are beyond Black Bolt.

No it has not. A whisper from Black Bolt has never destroyed cities. At best it was stated that it could destroy cities.

😂

Thor's barriers have never been broken before. They have even contained a Life Bomb but Black Bolt's scream is going to do it?

This is delving into Quanchi levels of stupidity.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I wouldn't doubt that.Quite a few thor fans on here and they have good arguments.I just think that BB can pull more wins then you think he can.

Black Bolt at best takes like 3/10 against Thor on a normal day.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
And that barriers gonna break.Godblast takes time to charge.Time thors not gonna get from BB.

Once again: 😂

Thor will have all of the time in the world when his protected by a force field.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
It favors him more in certain categories but BB using his full voice would be much more powerful then anything thor can dish out except the godblast.

😂

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Yes it would

😂

The Thor respect thread exists for a reason.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No sentry really doesn't matter.Thor>sentry.But I am a black bolt fanboy.Your point?Your a thor fanboy.Your no worse then me 😈

Apparently I'm better than you.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

With C.I.S. off Thor would set up a barrier that would stop the scream and go on to God Blast the shit out of Black Bolt.

No C.I.S. favors Thor a great deal more than it does Black Bolt.

And a scream from Black Bolt would not kill Thor.

Where the hell do you get this shit from? Are you really Paul Jenkins? It would make sense, your both a Sentry and a Black Bolt fanboy.

Thor might stomp BB in a normal fight but
CIS favors BB that's for sure.

Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree. First, I don't believe Thor can create a barrier before BB screams. Second, I don't believe he can do it and attack at the same time. Finally, I don't believe he can do it period.

Thor might stomp BB in a normal fight but
CIS favors BB that's for sure.

Why can't he create a barrier before Black Bolt screams? With no C.I.S. off, Thor will be using his reaction time. He has micro second reaction time.

Why not? Thor can create force fields so large they encircle the UN Building while he has battles in them.

He can't do what period? Create a barrier? Are you choosing to simply ignore Thor's powers?

Your an ignorant idiot.

Haha.