The New Fantastic Four vs. The Fantastic Four

Started by Impediment5 pages
Originally posted by chomperx9
pulling it to death. reeds strechability has a limit. plastic man would give hulk a harder time

Explain to me, then, how Hulk "pulls" Mister Fantastic to death, seeing as how MF can stretch to over 500 yards easy.

Originally posted by marwash22
Reed can be knocked out and his elasticity can be taxed.

How? Still waiting for an informed answer instead of vague assumptions.

Originally posted by Impediment
Explain to me, then, how Hulk "pulls" Mister Fantastic to death, seeing as how MF can stretch to over 500 yards easy.
tie his ass up in a knot and pulls hard as hell.

Originally posted by Impediment
How? Still waiting for an informed answer instead of vague assumptions.
can i use comic examples of how Reed has been knocked out?

Originally posted by Impediment
E-las-tic.

Tell me how Hulk can damage e-las-tic.

Put him in his mouth, chew him up, shit him out. Bong.

Originally posted by Impediment

Wolverine's healing factor kept him alive from Dark Phoenix's TK blasts that ripped off his skin. I'm sure he could shrug off some of Johnny's fire.

She wasn't using her full powers on him. If she had he'd been a goner.

Wolvie can't handle Johnny's heat. Think what Doom looked like after Torch had one round with him. Wolvie would be a crisp after that.

I think this is a stalemate though. I don't see GR is going down.

On the other hand, no one can reach Torch, or Sue if she goes invisible. And if she can do the bubble in the brain thing, she could KO Hulk, but thats still not an auto-win.

Originally posted by Placidity
She wasn't using her full powers on him. If she had he'd been a goner.

Wolvie can't handle Johnny's heat. Think what Doom looked like after Torch had one round with him. Wolvie would be a crisp after that.

I think this is a stalemate though. I don't see GR is going down.

On the other hand, no one can reach Torch, or Sue if she goes invisible. And if she can do the bubble in the brain thing, she could KO Hulk, but thats still not an auto-win.

logan can still smell where sue is

Originally posted by chomperx9
logan can still smell where sue is

He can smell her presence, doesn't mean he can pinpoint her.

Even if he could, he is the only one, and he ain't getting past her shields.

Originally posted by chomperx9
logan can still smell where sue is
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Originally posted by Placidity
He can smell her presence, doesn't mean he can pinpoint her.

Even if he could, he is the only one, and he ain't getting past her shields.

i dunno about that. If he goes apeshit on her shiled, she'd fatigue long before he does. Also, he and Hulk can team up... Hulk can throw a thunderclap her way and she's out.

Originally posted by Impediment
Care to elaborate how Hulk solos?
Thing wouldn't give Hulk a run for his money. Hulk is alot faster and bigger than Thing. Thing is pretty durable and strong but I doubt he's as good in those areas as Hulk. Hulk has also shown he's a better fighter so the intelligence factor that Thing has in the comics is sort of irrelevant.

Originally posted by marwash22
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i dunno about that. If he goes apeshit on her shiled, she'd fatigue long before he does. Also, he and Hulk can team up... Hulk can throw a thunderclap her way and she's out.

Um yea, I'm not even going to attempt to respond to this till you can prove Wolvie can pinpoint someone by scent alone.

BTW, she also has a telekinetic push attack.

Originally posted by Placidity
Um yea, I'm not even going to attempt to respond to this till you can prove Wolvie can pinpoint someone by scent alone.

BTW, she also has a telekinetic push attack.

He pinpointed Mystique.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
He pinpointed Mystique.

No he didn't.

I know it's a comic feat but Hulk inhaled Reed, held him in his stomach for are while then regurgitated him out. Reed was out.

Now that's only if Reed envelopes Hulk's head while restraining him but I see him doing it hoping it would be a K.O

Sue would ANYWAYS protect the team straight away and Hulk aint getting though the bubble quickly. Johnny would hit the sky and blast the ground........ dispersing the team.

The Super Nova feat where Johnny activated and Sue contained it would be interesting Spidey would escape early Wolvey Hulk and GR incinerated inside. Hulk won't die but would be hurt and would have to heal, Movie GR a Supernova should blast him. Logan melts bones and all.

Spidey can just be caught in a bubble, when let go in the air he won't have any momentum anymore and he'll get hit before a web can remove him.

Both teams have great options. But Sue is key to a win for FF.

Ghost Rider is supernatural. How is he incinerated? He's a demon with a flaming skull for a head FFS.

Norton's Hulk will shrug off any fire attach that Johnny gives him. One well aimed thunderclap, and Johnny is extinguished.

Reed and possibly contend with Spidey as far as agility goes. If Spidey shoots webs at Reed, Reed can just use his elasticity to maneuver out of the webs, methinks.

Originally posted by Impediment
Ghost Rider is supernatural. How is he incinerated? He's a demon with a flaming skull for a head FFS.

That's Hell Fire, magical. Johnny's Super Nova should at least put him down temporarily

Originally posted by Impediment

Norton's Hulk will shrug off any fire attach that Johnny gives him. One well aimed thunderclap, and Johnny is extinguished.


Hulk's skin thudded in as assualt rifles hit his flesh and taken explosive mortar round flesh wounds. VS the temperature of the Sun. I gave him a temporary put down anyway but this should seriously hurt him.

We also have to look at teamwork.

The feats for the film FF were excellent with Reed barking out orders and everybody working efficiently.

Movie Hulk, Wolvey, GR and Spidey would not work together besides maybe Logan and Parker brewing something half assed. If Logan asked Hulk to throw him Hulk would probably swat him BFR.

Impediment, does each team have basic knowledge of each other? If so, what does that knowledge entail?

Shit, GR will do his cowboy lasso trick and suck Johnny in.

The team are innocent GR would have no reason to fight them.....he leaves on his motorcycle.

The other 3 die.

Sue would show The New FF her boobs, and the fight would be over.

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