Originally posted by Kazenji
Says who?
Says logic.
They were all learning their powers, in the first film.
Also, something like a bubble in the brain is something someone would have to think about doing, long before doing it. It's not something you just come up with, spur of the moment. That takes some medical knowledge..and then testing to see if it works.
Sue would have to have tested it out. EGADS!
Originally posted by dadudemonYou bursted his bubble.
Says logic.They were all learning their powers, in the first film.
Also, something like a bubble in the brain is something someone would have to think about doing, long before doing it. It's not something you just come up with, spur of the moment. That takes some medical knowledge..and then testing to see if it works.
Sue would have to have tested it out. EGADS!
Originally posted by Darth Martin
Ghost Rider is tricky. Penance Stare wouldn't work.
Originally posted by Kazenji
Says who?
Originally posted by marwash22
it only works if you've hurt people.
Originally posted by Kazenjiwhy'd you ask, if you already knew?
Thanks for telling me something i already know....
A) They have,lots of criminals,der
B)X-MEN ORIGINS Wolverine took bullets to the BRAIN and lived, only losing his memories
C) Spiderman did in fact fight the fantastic four in a comic, he lost but he was also ALONE, he can hold against them fine, and that was one of the earlier spidey comics.
D)HULK SMASH!!!!!
Originally posted by Pwned
A) They have,lots of criminals,der
B)X-MEN ORIGINS Wolverine took bullets to the BRAIN and lived, only losing his memories
C) Spiderman did in fact fight the fantastic four in a comic, he lost but he was also ALONE, he can hold against them fine, and that was one of the earlier spidey comics.
D)HULK SMASH!!!!!
Okay, so who's sock are you?
Didn't Sue say she could make bubbles in the brain that could kill a person? Somewhere in the sequel, I may be wrong, it's been awhile since I've seen it, but I remember seeing something like it and remembering it's something talked about in the comics. With this said, she could take out Spidey, Wolverine and Hulk. No idea about Ghost Rider though.
EDIT: Oh.
Originally posted by Impediment
Sue mentioned in FF2 to Doom that she could put an invisible bubble in his body, expand it, and kill him.Sue could probably do this to Wolvie and Spidey, easy.
Hulk? I dunno.
GR? I doubt it.
Well there we go. I don't see why she couldn't do it to Hulk, but GR is the big problem imo.
Well, I'm curious how Hulk would stand up to Torch's supernova. Hulk has can get knocked out with enough damage after all.
Spiderman shouldn't be counted out here. He's pretty damn strong on his own and is resourceful. He can possibly knock out anyone on FF with the exception of Thing. Maybe hit them with a pole or something. I'm not saying he WILL knock them out, just that in a melee, someone as strong and agile as spiderman can possibly take one of them out.
Not sure how wolverine's team can neutralize Torch. Hulk can possibly jump up and tag him... but it's gonna be difficult considering Torch's flight speed and agility (he's a lot more agile than a helicopter after all).
I do believe GR's penance stare could work... although not as good. After all, none of the FF are completely innocent... so the penance stare should have some mild effect on them. But GR would still be best off just ramming into them with his motorcycle.
Sue can probably contain wolverine. I doubt his claws can cut through an invisible shield.
I'm leaning towards Hulk's team here, if only because of the hulk... but I do believe it's inaccurate how people say Hulk solos. If it was hulk alone I believe the FF can take him out with simple teamwork.
Movie versions always get confusing for me since I read the comics.
Hulk was impervious to a lot of harm and had a wicked thunderclap.
The latest Wolverine was basically unstoppable once he got the adamantium.
Spidey had some good feats in the movies, especially the second imo.
Ghost Rider showed some strength and durability. His penance stare and hell fire showed some promise.
Ben lifted that giant ferris wheel and showed durbability.
Reed was able to wrap Ben up and hold.
Johnny had some good high speed flight feats and his flame powers seemed strong.
Sue's forcefield was strong but she suffered from fatique which was proportional to the feat. I ususally ignore her "forcefield bubble to the brain" argument because it wasn't actually shown in the movie iirc and it's not in her character.
I think the FF put up a fight, but they really can't put anyone from the NFF team down except Spidey. While the NFF team can put down the members of the FF.
Originally posted by BruceSkywalkerSpidey actually has decent feats. Stopping the subway train, fast webbing, hyper reflexes, etc.
which is why i don't see sue holding hulk for too long if she is even able to hold him via inviso shield.. also i don't think the ff can keep down Blaze, and Spidey's "spider sense" will help evade
I'm not sure about Blaze. He really only fought supernatural creatures. Though the police didn't do much to stop him.
Sue gets taxed quickly in the movies. I think she could slow Hulk down for a few moments at most. Sue and Think against Hulk would make it interesting.
But the FF gets worn down pretty quickly by the NFF, imo.