Originally posted by Shoes
HK, please. Men are talking here.If I recall correctly, Kas'im beat Bane, then blocked his TK wave. There is also no evidence that Bane even studied that form, and may never had practiced it.
You insult me and my post, and yet you clearly didn't read it properly. I've read PoD. Bane was WINNING until Kas'im switched to a new form (which, to my knowledge, Bane had learned by RoT) that at the time was not familiar with Bane. Then Kas'im was winning, until he stopped to give a monologue and Bane launched a massive Force wave that collapsed the temple. Kas'im blocked it, but the temple came crashing down on him. Bane got lucky at the end, but he was winning until Kas'im switched forms. And Bane had only about one year of training.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
You insult me and my post, and yet you clearly didn't read it properly. I've read PoD. Bane was WINNING until Kas'im switched to a new form (which, to my knowledge, Bane had learned by RoT) that at the time was not familiar with Bane. Then Kas'im was winning, until he stopped to give a monologue and Bane launched a massive Force wave that collapsed the temple. Kas'im blocked it, but the temple came crashing down on him. Bane got lucky at the end, but he was winning until Kas'im switched forms. And Bane had only about one year of training.
You cannot blindly state that Bane was familiar with that form. He was not in PoD. There is no evidence that he was in RoT. Where did you gather "your knowledge"? Furthermore, Bane had knowledge of the temple's layout, which gave him an advantage (albeit a marginal one), but an advantage nonetheless. Because of that there, there is no evidence that Bane could replicate that "victory".
Originally posted by Shoes
You cannot blindly state that Bane was familiar with that form. He was not in PoD. There is no evidence that he was in RoT. Where did you gather "your knowledge"? Furthermore, Bane had knowledge of the temple's layout, which gave him an advantage (albeit a marginal one), but an advantage nonetheless. Because of that there, there is no evidence that Bane could replicate that "victory".
I'm pretty sure that it was mentioned somewhere that Bane had learned that form by RoT, but maybe I'm mistaken. Still, an extra 10 years of training (and he with only one year of training, when Kas'im was using a form that Bane was familiar with, was beating Kas'im quite badly) and orbalisks (temporarily) would give Bane the edge over Kas'im.
It depends do you consider Luke becoming one with the force to let it guide his movements his lightsaber skills. Because in the Vong Wars it is described that he may as well have been using a thousand lightsabers. If not I would still rate him fairly high but its hard to tell as the real masters of the Jedi Sith wars and the height of the jedi ages were long gone and as such there is not much to draw comparison.
However if one goes by what holocrons say about characters Caedus is definitely up there and Luke is at least a step above him if Caedus is not second because Jason does describe him as the greatest wielder of a lightsaber he has ever known and the holocron he was learning from said Jason was already a skilled wielder.
The emperor and Yoda are definitely up there.
I would probably put Mace in at first if you discount Luke's union with the force because that isn't so much his skill as much as being a conduit for the force. Also for anyone who gives me crap about him being beaten he was stabbed in the back by Anakin without expecting it.
Bane is also on my list along with Revan and the Exile. Anyone else it really depends on what book you're reading.
Re: 10 best lightsaber fighters
😠 that whole comment about grevoius was false.do u know how many jedi he has killed,injured,pushed to retreat(kit fisto),or retired!?????more than mace,kit,ob1,count dooku andjango put together!!!!!!!!thus saying one you list in order from greateast to least(1:best10:worst) grevious woul be a 1 🤣 darth radon 💃
Originally posted by Zack Skywalker😠
Ok, so this is my top 10, and it is all from the movies and clone wars, since I haven't any idea about EU characters other then a few.1.Yoda-Seemed like he was beating Sidious, and owned Dooku
2.Anakin-Pwned Dooku, was beating Obi Wan through the duel
3.Windu-Beat Sidious, and mastered Vaapad
4.Sidious-Took down 3 Jedi Masters in 15 Seconds, was a good match for Yoda
5.Maul-Killed Qui Gonn and had Obi Wan beat, coolest sith ever
6.Obi Wan-Took down Anakin, Grievus and Maul. May not be the best, but gets the job done
7.Dooku-Beat Obi Wan twice, Anakin once, and put up a fight vs Yoda
8.Qui Gonn-Fought Maul for 5 minutes before losing, seemed really good
9.Luke-Beat masked Vader, but that doesn't seem to much. When he finally took down Vader, it was because he tripped over his cape
10.Kit Fisto-Pwned Grievus, has awesome dreads