Originally posted by janus77Void with PG might win but explain how regular void beats him.
Void slaughters Juggernaut and the god that birthed him.this is spite. Juggernaut has no chance hurting Void and with the PG Void has more than enough power to slap him into a coma for years.
Juggernaut can 1) be stopped and 2) be killed. just takes more juice than Thor had.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Void with PG might win but explain how regular void beats him.
Juggernaut could never hurt him, yet he has many ways of hurting Juggernaut.
somebody with UniPower beat Juggernaut into a coma, Onslaught smacked him unconscious, WarHulk almost killed him. I think Void is around that weight class.
Originally posted by janus77Regular void doesn't have enough power to hurt juggarnaut
regular Void stomped Asgard, I think that's more than sufficient power.Juggernaut could never hurt him, yet he has many ways of hurting Juggernaut.
somebody with UniPower beat Juggernaut into a coma, Onslaught smacked him unconscious, WarHulk almost killed him. I think Void is around that weight class.
Your right juggs can't hurt him.But what can void do to him besides BFR?
Wasn't that mindrape?Yes onslaught.No he didn't
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Regular void doesn't have enough power to hurt juggarnautYour right juggs can't hurt him.But what can void do to him besides BFR?
Wasn't that mindrape?Yes onslaught.No he didn't
Sentry was strong enough to go rounds with WWH, a Hulk who (while not particularly bothered) STOPPED Juggernaut's "unstoppable" forward motion.
VoidSentry > Sentry, imo.
Originally posted by janus77And spiderman was wrong.
no, not mindrape, Onslaught slapped him across international borders.
Captain Universe beat him up, when Spiderman found him, he looked very badly beaten up. in fact, Spiderman mentally went through a list of people that could have done it (starting with Hulk).Sentry was strong enough to go rounds with WWH, a Hulk who (while not particularly bothered) STOPPED Juggernaut's "unstoppable" forward motion.
VoidSentry > Sentry, imo.
So the people that have stopped him are A): An omega level mutant B): Someone with unipower which makes you much much stronger and C): He was just stopped by hulk.Not beaten.Just BFR
nothing suggested Spiderman was wrong, Captain Universe did the job on Juggernaut, plane and simple. it's when he started endangering others that the UniPower went against him.
Onslaught isn't Omega Level, is he? he's just a psionic by-product of Xavier and Magneto. at his most powerful he was still physically weaker than Mindless Hulk.
Hulk broke the fundamental 'promise' of the Juggernaut charm, "unstoppability"... thus proving that physical force can trump Cyttorak's magic.
Originally posted by janus77And regular void doesn't have that force.With PG he might or will.
nothing suggested Spiderman was wrong, Captain Universe did the job on Juggernaut, plane and simple. it's when he started endangering others that the UniPower went against him.Onslaught isn't Omega Level, is he? he's just a psionic by-product of Xavier and Magneto. at his most powerful he was still physically weaker than Mindless Hulk.
Hulk broke the fundamental 'promise' of the Juggernaut charm, "unstoppability"... thus proving that physical force can trump Cyttorak's magic.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
And regular void doesn't have that force.With PG he might or will.
PG would be spite, no chance for Juggernaut.
Originally posted by janus77While juggs really has no chance to beat void anyway.But all void can do to juggs is BFR.With PG he can do more IMO
as far as I'm concerned, he's clearly powerful enough to go toe-to-toe with WWH and really work him hard. he's obliterated Asgard and could easily have killed Thor ... I just don't think it requires more power than that to beat Juggernaut.PG would be spite, no chance for Juggernaut.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
You're not good enough to quote PF or SLJ for that matter. And your quotes kind of help me out. "It was a brawl...Juggy was trying to kick Hulk's butt." In other words, Hulk stopped Juggernaut from beating him. He did so by tricking him. Hulk made Juggernaut basically destroy the foundation causing the old man to panic and divert Cain's attention.In the end, Gage has put the final stamp on things. So WWH did not stop Cain's forward advance.
Originally posted by Ptr_GrifinGage didn't clarify. He went back on what he said. You don't say "he momentarily stopped" and then say, "Juggy [wasn't trying to] push him back" to "Juggy was still moving forward very slowly." The second statement is unclear. And can be clarified either way. The first and third statement? Mutually exclusive statements that cannot be reconciled with each other. You either stop or you don't. You can't be momentarily stopped... and still be moving forward slowly the entire time. The writer quanchiwaffled.
ODG, BBz has a point. Let's just agree to disagree. I can see how you think what you do from those early e-mails. That's why I tried to be very thorough with mine to Gage, and he clarified things on what he meant in his reply.
We obviously agree to disagree. But presenting that last blog post as if it were somehow a clarification of his first post is inane.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Gage didn't clarify. He went back on what he said. You don't say "he momentarily stopped" and then say, "Juggy [wasn't trying to] push him back" to "Juggy was still moving forward very slowly." The second statement is unclear. And can be clarified either way. The first and third statement? Mutually exclusive statements that cannot be reconciled with each other. You either stop or you don't. You can't be momentarily stopped... and still be moving forward slowly the entire time. The writer quanchiwaffled.We obviously agree to disagree. But presenting that last blog post as if it were somehow a clarification of his first post is inane.
In his reply to me, he clears up that when he used the word, "Stopped" he did not mean his forward movement, but stopping an objective. Forget about the unstoppable power and apply it to another character, it is the same concept for anyone. It was a poor choice of words, especially involving a character like Juggernaut where "unstoppable" is thrown around in almost every appearance.
I only posted the final clarification to say that Juggernaut was not stopped.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
ODG, BBz has a point. Let's just agree to disagree. I can see how you think what you do from those early e-mails. That's why I tried to be very thorough with mine to Gage, and he clarified things on what he meant in his reply.
Nah sorry. DBG is right, if you look at the comic WWH stopped him and from what I can see the writer got sick to death with people like you harrasing him so he changed what he said.
Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
In his reply to me, he clears up that when he used the word, "Stopped" he did not mean his forward movement, but stopping an objective. Forget about the unstoppable power and apply it to another character, it is the same concept for anyone. It was a poor choice of words, especially involving a character like Juggernaut where "unstoppable" is thrown around in almost every appearance.I only posted the final clarification to say that Juggernaut was not stopped.
Um you were pissing him off.