Is there a number from the movie, because there's a huge different between 1k and 10k.
Though I'm not certain 10k Jedi could defeat all of Skynet, which as pointed out earlier, is global and according to Kyle Reese in the fist film, pushed the human race almost into extinction.
Relly depends on what they have with them, just robes and sabres, no. War-machines could change the tide.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
And the Emperor was probably thinking "That's exactly what I'm counting on."Well I just texted my son, and he told me that before the clone wars, there were around 10,000 Jedi knights.
Yes they would, more than a match even. A Jedi would completely dominate a pig with a nine-mil.
The po'leece would be nothing to the Jedi.
wheres the source your son is getting this number from? 😛
a pig with a 9 millimeter yeah. a pig with a shotgun? no, jedis going down.
Originally posted by Placidity
I don't consider them fragile by any measure.It wasn't just a "band of humans".
Sam Worthington was half machine giving him not only enhanced physical stats but more importantly allowed him to infiltrate the base freely, undetected (or Skynet allowed him back in, whatever the reason, he was unimpeded).
Christian Bale also has in depth knowledge of the skynet, including experiences from his mother (if you count Sarah Connor Chronicles, her experience and knowledge goes beyond just the two films). He had knowledge on the engineering of the Terminators, and also the potential of a Terminator's fuel cell as a nuclear weapon, which is the ONLY reason they were able to take down the base at the end.
Also, nobody conquered Skynet. They at best made a little dent, a victory completely insignificant if not for the rescue of Kyle Reese. Skynet is a global network, not something you can take down physically, unless if you destroy ALL of their bases around the world, and maybe every bit of electronic connected to the network, perhaps including satellites.
Jedi wouldn't stand a chance if not for the information given to them by John. And even with the information, I think they'll be able to survive and do hit and runs, but eventually they'll be located and bombed back to the stone age.
If Jedi actually starts to win the war (which would take years, heck I dunno if Jedi will even live long enough, they might have to make babies) Skynet will probably just say fck it and launch a nuke at their last known location.
i don't know man, I think it's fair to say that they're fragile, especially in this scenario. If a simple homemade pipebomb can split a t-800 in half, what do you think a lightsaber is going to do?
Skynet was conquered twice, however, i'll over look that. I hate to shit on the Terminator franchise because other than the last two movies it's a stellar series. It wasn't until the last movie that, Skynet lost all intelligence and practicality. One of the biggest examples that shows how impractical and stupid Skynet are is their base in, Terminator Salvation. Go back and observe the Skynet base in that movie. It's nothing more than a fortified warehouse. Now...,go watch, The matrix and look at machine city and then tell me which one more resembles what a machine driven base should be. The Skynet warehouse in, Salvation was designed so that a small group of humans could easily infiltrate the base.
You know, after seeing, Salvation i learned that, Conner really doesn't know much more about the Terminators than any one else in the resistance. Other than shit they just made up for that movie, like, the Terminators have a hard time seeing, what is it, during the day or night? There really wasn't anything that he taught anyone. Shit, he wasn't even good at leading or rallying people. In fact, he put the resistance in more peril than they would have received had he never been there in the first place. Yeah, he may have known about the nuke but thats nothing the resistance wouldn't have figured out on their own by capturing and studying a model, themselves. I know im getting off track, but it really bugs me how much, Salvation butchered, Conners character and mythos. He did absolutely nothing.
Anyway, i digress. If a small band of poorly outfitted humans were able to hold off skynet for all of those decades why do you believe that an army of super-human jedi would be unable to tear through them like butter? The bots that the Jedi are used to fighting are faster and have shields. Again, had Conner had some special knowledge of the Terminators that the jedi needed in order to win, i might say, Skynet has a chance. However, what kind information does, conner have that would be more beneficial than, force run, force jump, force push and lightsaber throw? The fact of the matter is that the Jedi don't need to know anything that Conner knows nor did the human resistance.
Any Jedi Knight is going to be a better and more intelligent leader than, conner. No one needs Conner here. Just like Salvation showed us...,he is of no real importance. I'm just mad, dude. I still haven't gotten over all of the potential that, Salvation, squandered.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
OK, so how do the Jedi deal with thousands of HK's?
Who says there are thousands? You're giving skynet far more credit for their intelligence and military tactics than i am. Yeah, Skynet may have cracked time travel and all but they obviously werent smart enough to realize that the Nuclear holocaust they initiated is what killed off the majority of the human population. I say this because had they realized this, they would have simply kept launching nukes until the entire human race was dead or until the Sun was blotted out.
However, even if their were thousands, they would just stay at bay until they got low enough or until they figured out how to get to them. They certainly have the abilities and prowess to do both.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNxWell, Skynet had taken control of the planet, yeah? Makes sense that there would be thousands of HK's.
Who says there are thousands? You're giving skynet far more credit for their intelligence and military tactics than i am. Yeah, Skynet may have cracked time travel and all but they obviously werent smart enough to realize that the Nuclear holocaust they initiated is what killed off the majority of the human population. I say this because had they realized this, they would have simply kept launching nukes until the entire human race was dead or until the Sun was blotted out.However, even if their were thousands, they would just stay at bay until they got low enough or until they figured out how to get to them. They certainly have the abilities and prowess to do both.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, Skynet had taken control of the planet, yeah? Makes sense that there would be thousands of HK's.
I don't know. I think they only started manufacturing the, Hk's and other war units to battle the remaining human presence after the world wide nuclear holocaust. If this is the case then they would only make as many as they felt were necessary to deal with the remaining human force, which might explain why we only ever saw one or two, Hk's at a time.