Bad ideas that in retrospect are still bad

Sometimes a writer will introduce a new concept that might ruffle fan feathers for a while. Often the backlash will subside with time and sometimes the fanbase will even come around to see it as a positive move, maybe even laugh at their initial overreaction.

But what about the times when you look back at a concept, character, or story from years ago and think "wow I still can't believe they did that!"?

Let me start the topic off with my pick:

Superman rocking a mullet was one of the worst ideas ever. Looking at him drawn with that goofy 90s hair one wondered how DC editorial could possibly screw up a character more. And then the Electric Superman happened. In retrospect Superman's mullet seemed an attractive concept when compared to that nonsense.

introduction of sentry in his white trash glory was still bad and even his death cant take from the garbage the he spewed into marvel.

Donna Troy retcons, the second Scarlet Witch power origin retcon, Wonder Girl's Young Justice costume, Beast's transformations, etc.

magneto being de aged to joseph and later killed off for original mags to return and simply being a clone and magneto never evolving past his bigoted self righteous ways.. also the whole xorn thing headache.

Rulk

Illusion of Darkseid being powerful.

Grant Morrison's retcon of Batman's affair with Talia Al Ghul. Went from him hitting that with gusto, to her basically raping him just to get herself an heir (and isn't Damian a delight. 😄 )

Originally posted by Konton
the second Scarlet Witch power origin retcon, Beast's transformations.

Wanda's kids being shards of Mephisto, Vision being made emotionless and their marriage ending.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Wanda's kids being shards of Mephisto, Vision being made emotionless and their marriage ending.

2nd. didn't bother me much (besides the white apearence). I found the "new" Vision (young avengers) idea much worse

Putting Wolverine in every single comic book ever made

Having Batman and Cap come out as roughly equal in the three crossovers, really bad idea and way unrealistic. 😈

Cap wins everytime over bats, though MvsDC was fan voted so blame them

- Sentry's power in siege
- Everything Loeb did to Hulk until Pak saved the character in extremis
- Onslaught
- One More Day (How nobody named it at this point!?)
- Blue and Red Supermen
- All the rainbow colors of the Green Lantern
- Pak's handling of Galactus
- "Killing" Hercules
- Anti-Monitor as the top dog of the Sinestro Corp (wtf)
- Superman Prime (The golden one)

personally I found Avengers Disassembled and its consequences terrible

Making the Falcon a p*mp/drug dealer.

Originally posted by Warlord
1st. terrible idea.

2nd. didn't bother me much (besides the white apearence). I found the "new" Vision (young avengers) idea much worse

I refuse to read new Vision.

I found ye olde Vision and Scarlet to be the ost interesting couple in comics, ending what was potentially a fountain of great stories was an awful move IMO.

Really, what was done with Vision after his break-up with Wanda? He slowly fell in love with her again, then died. They killed any character growth he could have had.

I found him being mechanic - cold to be interesting and him finding his inner humanity to be even more. The incident with him and wonderman in vol.3 regarding Scarlet Witch was great IMO. His death and "re-creation" sucked big time tho

Originally posted by Martian_mind
I refuse to read new Vision.

I found ye olde Vision and Scarlet to be the ost interesting couple in comics, ending what was potentially a fountain of great stories was an awful move IMO.

Really, what was done with Vision after his break-up with Wanda? He slowly fell in love with her again, then died. They killed any character growth he could have had.

Well, I think that we all agree that New Vision is lame, but to be fair with him, the status quo of the New Avengers has been dissappointing since their very few adventures. Maybe old Vision comes back after the Children's crusade? 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Martian_mind
I refuse to read new Vision.

I found ye olde Vision and Scarlet to be the ost interesting couple in comics, ending what was potentially a fountain of great stories was an awful move IMO.

Really, what was done with Vision after his break-up with Wanda? He slowly fell in love with her again, then died. They killed any character growth he could have had.

Personally, I always wondered what was wrong with her, that she was in love with a piece of plastic.