Bad ideas that in retrospect are still bad

Started by roughrider4 pages
Originally posted by roughrider

And yeah, Marvel did paint themselves into a corner, but they didn't want Peter to repeat the same route as Daredevil.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
- Onslaught

Mark Waid did a credible job of building up Onslaught as a potentially good idea. His original take on Onslaught is that it was just intended to be a long-suppressed part of Xavier's personality (no Magneto involved), and if he had more of a voice in the crossover, and was involved in the stories that initially set up the mystery, I think things would have worked out a lot better.

Depowering Wonder Woman was such a bad idea that people who didn't even read comics (Gloria Steinem) took notice and protested.

1) OMD - somebody should beat the crap outta Quesada. He can spend 100 years talking about how important it was to retcon 20 years of Spider-man's stories and how it barely effected anything but it wont change the fact that it was the WORST idea ever that screwed up Spider-man's continuity forever. And that arrogant f@#k wont even admit he skrewed up and is so freaking proud of himself he probably jerks off in front of a mirror. He should get fired for OMD and never be allowed to work on any comicbook ever again even if it's reprint of Disney's 30 years old "Duck Tales" story.
2) Daken and Romulus - bad characters. Just bad.
3) Frankencastle - they're gonna turn him back to normal sooner or later and now that he's a zombie they'll have no choice but to come up with a lame magic-based excuse to bring Frank back. Because Marvel solves everything with magic.
4) Gwen being a two-faced *****. Bad idea.
5) Turning Deadpool into Marvel's #1 whore.

Originally posted by SamZED
3) Frankencastle - they're gonna turn him back to normal sooner or later and now that he's a zombie they'll have no choice but to come up with a lame magic-based excuse to bring Frank back. Because Marvel solves everything with magic.

He's back to normal in Shadowland already.

Originally posted by SamZED
3) Frankencastle - they're gonna turn him back to normal sooner or later and now that he's a zombie they'll have no choice but to come up with a lame magic-based excuse to bring Frank back. Because Marvel solves everything with magic.

Each to their own i suppose because i like Franken Castle it was weird at the start but i got use to it.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
magneto never evolving past his bigoted self righteous ways..

hahaha! I see what you mean but...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He's back to normal in Shadowland already.
Ive seen it but thought it was a mistake. The story takes place right after the siege, Bullseye isnt even in prison yet, its like they just beat the Void, but Frank is somehow back no normal already?😕

Originally posted by Kazenji
Each to their own i suppose because i like Franken Castle it was weird at the start but i got use to it.
True. But it's the story im worried about. They're gonna have to change it back eventually, and I dont see a way to bring someone back to life without magic. And solving everything with magic is lame imo.

Originally posted by SamZED
I dont see a way to bring someone back to life without magic.
Clones seem to be a popular way. Or robots.

This is Marvel after all.

Originally posted by SamZED

2) Daken and Romulus - bad characters. Just bad.

I actually liked Romulus in the beginning but it was a let down when they finally revealed him.

spider-man clone saga(s)

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Depowering Wonder Woman was such a bad idea that people who didn't even read comics (Gloria Steinem) took notice and protested.

Arguably it worked in a "New Coke" kinda way 🙂

Originally posted by psycho gundam
spider-man clone saga(s)

It wasn't that bad of an idea how it was originally conceived.

gwen stacy being turned into a skank pregnant with osborns kid..

i think obsorn and slade certain traits in common.

1: OMD
2: Making Xavier out to be a true piece of shit rather than just having a dark side.
3: Daken, he sucks. Too many clawed wolvie lookalikes around also. I hope Daken develops a gay reationship with Spidey and when Sabertooth gets back he tears mullet apart in front of Parker.
4: Bringing characters back from the dead with no explanation (wtf happened to Psylocke after Vargas killed her?)
5: Apocalypse STUTTERING to Black Bolt in HOM. WTF?

Of those you mentioned I don't really mind Xavier being an *sshole, a guy who like to define himself by his morals is a jerk. Unless you're Captain America because that means you're always right.

He stuttered because he knew what was going to happen afterwards.

Originally posted by SamZED
Ive seen it but thought it was a mistake. The story takes place right after the siege, Bullseye isnt even in prison yet, its like they just beat the Void, but Frank is somehow back no normal already?😕

I know, I know... but he's human on covers and promo pics (

Spoiler:
killing puny parker
😈 ), too.

the worse retcons arenet even retcons just lack of knowledge or back story for the change.

kon el being half lex and half superman...

umm.. previous scans and even repeated DNa alteration would have made it impossible for lex or supes to be donors.. especially when we know what lex thought about the supe cloning during reign of supermen

Originally posted by King Castle
the worse retcons arenet even retcons just lack of knowledge or back story for the change.

kon el being half lex and half superman...

umm.. previous scans and even repeated DNa alteration would have made it impossible for lex or supes to be donors.. especially when we know what lex thought about the supe cloning during reign of supermen

lex proved it was possible by doing it.

it was stated that you couldn't clone superman without using another source of DNA to stabilise the genetic structure. Lex used himself.

it makes the character richer imo.

i'm talking about the actual story origin of kon el doesnt even come close to lining up to the teen titan retcon without even being an actual retcon..

Superboy's entire DNA was human based made to mimic superman's powers... superman by the way is a triple helix superboy was a double helix,.

now the only issue with superboy was who was his donor westfield or the psycho scientist living in the cadmus tunnels.

we know that superboy had his entire DNA replaced by roxy to keep him from dying. her DNA was used to restabilize superboy. b4 that we know that superboy needed gaurdian's to fight off teh clone disease... the reason it worked on superboy was b/c superboy's DNA was human which is why they couldnt use Dubbilex DNA since it was so fundamentally altered a DNAlien..

pretty sure i am missing one more DNA alteration to superboy... but anyways LEx luther during the origin story was not aware of superboy nor knew anything about the experiment he was quite shock to see him on the news and superboy's interview and explanation of how he came to be.

also to put thinks in perspective team cadmus also broke superboy's illusion and origin to rest telling him he wasnt cloned from superman and showing him scans of his DNA and his two possible donor's since westfield had died and damaged caused by cadmus was unclear whose dna was used it sure wasnt Lex.. since lex tried to kill them all due to ego and they semi succeeding where he had repeatedly failed even then lex didnt know the whole truth of superboy's origin..

that is about 10 yrs of consistent history written away by an @$$hole writer just to make a modern character and explain his take on him and his powers.