Don't underestimate the importance of the Taijutsu statistic, and do note that speed isn't everything. The idea is that speed governs instantaneous speed and maneuverability, but a good grasp of taijutsu can be used just the same to respond to attacks by either dodging or blocking them. If this wasn't so, Sarutobi with his 5 in Taijutsu and and his measly 3 in speed would have been totally blitzed by Orochimaru and the two Hokages.
Sakura's strength and speed are greater than Hinatas, but her so called super-strength is faux; it is the product of perfectly controlled chakra released at the instant of contact, and is focused in the attacking limb. Taijutsu - and especially Jyuuken - contains a large amount of techniques to block or divert attacks with a small amount of physical power. All that Hinata needs to do is to stay away from the fist. And then there is the ability to manipulate the opponent's chakra network. A single jab at each of Sakura's arms and she has her super strength no longer.
Originally posted by killermover
Firstly, at the beginning of that fight, Sakura said that she wasn't good enough to dodge it well. Since you love that fight so much and probably know it off by heart, you should know it so I am not going to bother to post the panel. Chiyo used Sakura as a puppet to dodge. And right nom you;ll refer to the puppets vs puppets fight? How Sakura fought Sasori's puppets, dodged their every move? Well, actually it only showed her smash one puppet...anyway, Hinata uses the gentle fist... you can't block that either! so neji knows all about parrying - unless he's done what i suggested MIGHT be a possibility, above.
Sakura couldn't hope to defend against Hinata's attacks... nor evade them. the Byakugan adds a lot of percision in attacks. but greater than that is the fact that Sakura DOES NOT HANDLE NOR FOLLOW SPEEDY FIGHTERS AND ATTACKS WELL. there's various proof of this... but even from part one she couldn't follow lee's movements at all (even before neji was using the byakugan and looking unimpressed lol). She couldn't follow sasuke's shushin from part one at all. nor in part two (she's the ONLY one from team 7 who's oh so shocked by sasuke's speed - sai's not surprised at all, yamato sees it the whole way, even though he acknowledges that sasuke is fast). she doesn't handle speed well.
Post time skip Hinata has taijutsu speed over her like crazy. lol. Which is what the Gentle Fist naturally is, it's your all in one swiss army knife. Hinata's Shugohakke Rokujûyon Shô can manipulate the amount of control she has over them, her natural flexibility, and her ability to manipulate their size and strength, Hinata can use this technique to attack and defend simultaneously. She is also able to strike with enough force to create a small crater from a jumping strike. Her taijutsu is stronger than her other attributes for a reason, this jutsu increases her attack speed at a whim and she can manipulate the size and shape of her Shield by the sheer speed of her arms and Gentle Fist training.Hinata is kinda like Sasuke, she was testing her own created jutsu to see how effective it is and what it does, even if it hurts her. It's called trial and error.
so she wouldn't be simply dodging Hinata's attacks.... she'd have to block, and even if she manages to put up a gaurd, it'll be the beginning of the end.
She did one shot the Chimera, not that it matters if she had help her and Neji was the only people who could kill it in a blow. And yeah the chimera was stronger than the summon Sakura destroyed. It compied Keekei Genkai for crying out loud. Your overrating Sakura performance against Sasori. Sasori didn't even move a lot, he was a long range fighter, remember? Plus he was focusing on the old lady not the Sakura more. Sasori was holding back against Sakura not Chiyo. He used puppets, and ninjutsu. she doesn't exactly battled sasori one-one-one with taijutsu. Hinata is a taijutsu specialist and even her basic knowledge on taijutsu movements with her base taijutsu speed is enough to seal her tenketsu points before sakura can even concentrate chakra to her hands.
Well first of all, Sakura got knocked back by a flying ass and then saved. LOL. Secondly, Sakura's was punching a slow and mobile Centipede no bigger than the thing Sasuke owned with the bear. The Bee could own the Centipede due to having a gale ability that was on par blowing trees away. Sakura did not beat Sasori, he killed himself due to Chiyo's actions. Sakura was her puppet and thats it. I swear, when she beats a opponents on her own terms, then you'll have something. Last I checked, Sakura was getting pwned most of the fight, and only Chiyo was the thing that kept her alive all the while Sasori was focusing on his grandmother and disregurding Sakura come the 100 puppet battle.
Yes, clearly Sakura only smashed one puppet. Actually if memory is correct, she smashed more than this. But I digress. Yes Sakura and Chiyo decided to work together in the beginning because neither was beating Sasori by themselves. However you seem to be forgetting this page and the next page where Tsunade, again, emphasizes the importance that a medical ninja never get hit.
Also, I'm sort of laughing at how it sounded like you thought Hinata was as fast as Sasuke. Or that you made a comparison between the two of them. The only thing they have in common is hailing from a respected clan, both being somewhat quiet to various degrees, and the constant urge to get in Naruto's pants. Also, you've yet to convince me that she is faster than Sakura. Actually you've not really argued for it, so much as state it as a fact that is clearly obvious. You've also not given me a reason that Sakura can't dodge her attacks(even though Sakura's intelligence about the Hyuuga and training instinct to dodge attacks would certainly indicate that would be the thing she'd prioritize.)
Yes, clearly Sasori was never even regarding Sakura during the fight. Also, when the Chimera actually does something that I really care about, then I might care that Hinata and her infinitely more skilled cousin took down. Also, I'll try to make it very clear. Sakura is faster. She is smarter. She knows everything about the Hyuuga's fighting style by asking about it in part 1. Why do you believe that Hinata, who really has showed no improvement since part 1, will have such an easy time of defeating an opponent who holds all the cards?
Edit: Can't believe I almost forgot to address. You said Hinata getting slapped to the ground was the turning point in that arc(actually it wouldn't probably have been Minato's timely appearance but whatever) and I stated that Sakura doesn't beat Sasori, the next arc doesn't happen. You really didn't disprove me. Sakura lasted as long as she did, in part because of Chiyo, but also by her own determination to be able to help Naruto bring back Sasuke. So actually its far and away more impressive than Hinata being smacked to the ground. Even if the anime filler was nice and allowed the fans to believe she could really touch Pain. And obviously Sasori was impressed because he did something pointless.
Originally posted by killermover
Your just sad because Hinata's is an walking chakra nullifier and Sakura's weak ass is chakra bases shinobi that easy to shut down due to Hyuuga's specialities of shutting down chakra.
Stupid too. I don't care about that stuff even if it is utter lies and slanted truths.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Also, I'm sort of laughing at how it sounded like you thought Hinata was as fast as Sasuke. Or that you made a comparison between the two of them.
Sweet heavens, did killermover actually suggest that Hinata was as fast as Sasuke? If that's true, I'll stop taking him with any sort of seriousness. Pt 2 Hinata isn't even as fast as Chuunin exam arc Sasuke. 😐
It's like killermover saying Kakashi is as fast as the Raikage. 😐
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Sweet heavens, did killermover actually suggest that Hinata was as fast as Sasuke? If that's true, I'll stop taking him with any sort of seriousness. Hinata isn't even as fast as Chuunin exam arc Sasuke. 😐It's like killermover saying Kakashi is as fast as the Raikage. 😐
I don't know what he meant. He said Sakura was the only one surprised by Sasuke's speed when they met in Shippuden and somehow turned that into Hinata's speed would be too much for her cause she doesn't deal with speed well. Or to be honest, I'm not sure what he suggested actually, his points are so nonsensical.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
I don't know what he meant. He said Sakura was the only one surprised by Sasuke's speed when they met in Shippuden and somehow turned that into Hinata's speed would be too much for her cause she doesn't deal with speed well. Or to be honest, I'm not sure what he suggested actually, his points are so nonsensical.
Yeah, he stated that Sakura was surprised by Sasuke's speed, even though Naruto was surprised & Sai had been trained to be emotionless. Not to mention, only Yamato seemed to be able to somewhat see Sasuke move & he had a sweat drop on his cheek, which suggests surprise and/or slight fear.
Clearly Sakura would be surprised by extreme speed, after all, I mean, Sasori's puppets were moving slower than tortoises, and Hinata is liek the fastest Hyuuga evar!
Fact is, I don't think Hinata is that fast anyway. She hasn't demonstrated Part 1 Lee level speed.
Yeah, he just mentions something about how Sasuke and Hinata are alike when it comes to testing jutsu. 😐
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Yeah, he stated that Sakura was surprised by Sasuke's speed, even though Naruto was surprised & Sai had been trained to be emotionless. Not to mention, only Yamato seemed to be able to somewhat see Sasuke move & he had a sweat drop on his cheek, which suggests surprise and/or slight fear.Clearly Sakura would be surprised by extreme speed, after all, I mean, Sasori's puppets were moving slower than tortoises, and Hinata is liek the fastest Hyuuga evar!
Fact is, I don't think Hinata is that fast anyway. She hasn't demonstrated Part 1 Lee level speed.Yeah, he just mentions something about how Sasuke and Hinata are alike when it comes to testing jutsu. 😐
Hinata fought a blue Rubber band man, which obviously means she has ahmazing speed!
Funny, you'd figure Naruto would be a better example. His RS being used in battle for the first time to defend against Akatsuki and her Protection of the 8 trigrams 64 palms being used to defend from bug ninja.
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